1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

All 2st WR360 vs Modern 300's

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by ohmygewd, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Let preface in saying this isn't a slagging match on what's the better bike/brand out there!!

    I sit and stare at my lonely 95 WR360 and whilst the 350 4T is getting the glory, I have ridden the Beta 300 and KTM300 but not enough to get a real good comparison on how these modern 300's go in comparison to the 360 (92-02) in torque/power, how does it compare?

    I completely understand that the modern ergo's, suspension, brakes and electro's are far and away superior to even the last 360 made but disregarding this, on pure tractability or luggability (as these modern 300's are sold/marketed) is the modern 300's (even the last WR300) motor equal to or better than the 360?

    Really interested in owners who have a modern 300 and still have a 360.

    I can tell you that this 4T caper is becoming boring and l miss the instant power of 2T let alone the zilch engine braking especially on single tracks lol...but l don't miss not having a button these days;)
  2. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Having owned my360 for a while, and having the pleasure of shawbaggas 300 for two days.
    I was amazed at how similar both performed it took a half hour to get settled on the300 but after that it was lug it into corner pull throttle power out onto straight.

    Didn't have any bad things to say bout 300 in fact think it started easier than360 with very similar characteristics.

    If I had the option of a 300 at a good price I would probably take it.
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  3. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    in comparison to the 360, the modern 300's don't have more torque, but they make it up in spades with easier to ride points
    basically the smaller engine has less gyro effect, the power delivery is almost as linear as a 360, the charm is they are easier to ride
    coming off a corner on a 360 you have to be more careful or you get too much,,,, and that wears on you, I think that for a 5 minute ride or a high speed open area ride the 360 has an advantage in it's ability to carry top speed via more power, but that power can wear on you in tighter terrain, I rode my 300 on some single track and was amazed at how easy it was to push into corners, it really is stupid easy to ride
    so to compare,, the 300 requires less energy, if I was competing it would be my choice for sure
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  4. rancher1 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    WA
    If you like big power and smiles the 360 is the way to go.
  5. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Still got my 360 rancher1 probably never part with it, just gauging opinion's as l never wanted a new 2T because the 360 did everything that the 300's did but that was like 2008!!!
    Now, having been a 4t rider for the past 2 years and with the current crop of 300's...the question is do l lash out on a new 300 or wait until the DI/FI 2 bangers come out??

    Either way, l'm pretty hardline these days that l won't kickstart a bike ever again unless l have too...hence the poor 360 sits under cover these days.
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  6. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    No kick start a bike?!? Omg your living up to your avatar name omg!
    To not have to kick start the360 now that would be ace.
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  7. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Stick a 300 top end on ya wr250
  8. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Been toying with that idea Shawry for a while now but for the cost involved it's not worth it really these days.

    Juicy...if only the 360 was LH drive l reckon someone in the world would have fabbed a button start...then you could grab a modern rolling chassis and happy days - if only!!!
  9. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    I know a bloke that was working on an estart for his wr300. I saw first hand footage of it spinning the flywheel. Don't know if he progressed any further. Wanna swap top ends for a while OMG?
  10. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    where was the starter placed??
  11. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    Dunno mate he kept it pretty hush hush just showed me a video of it cranking flywheel. Aircraft mechanic/engineer so fairly cluey! I'll see if he got any further with it
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  12. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    The new 300 two stroke bikes come in different models with differing wideness of transmission ratios. 360 wr means woods racer not wide ratio, 348.8cc. 300 ktm is 293.2cc. The ktm/husky platform has one powervalve spring to adjust and one to swap out. That and the pipe options would take a lot of experimenting to answer what is being asked here. The crank is filled on the 300 models even the last of the Italian Husky ones, maybe all of them, 2004 on I think. The new 250/300 has damping in the clutch that likely will have an effect on the tractability not sure about luggability.
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  13. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000
    Don't think you could just bolt on the barrel and piston on a 2K WR250...could be wrong!!

    Thanks for the offer Shawry, but l reckon the I'll/we'll be getting rid of the WR250 as the bro is thinking of getting a Beta 300...although the 250 will be in a 95 WR360 rolling chassis:D
  14. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Wr= woods racer, good one does cr stand for curb racer then?
  15. Dirtdame Administrator

    Location:
    Rock Springs Wy
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    11 WR300,13 WR125,18 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    17 Beta Xtrainer
    :thinking:Hmmm...I always thought that it was Wide Ratio and Close Ratio.....
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  16. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Yup me to!

    But what does CR stand for then?

    Got it. Course rider.

    Woods rider and course rider that's what it stands for.
  17. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    well it used to be wide ratio, close ratio and XC was cross country
    but these days no one even knows which bathroom to use :eek:
  18. WVdag Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Smithville, West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 WR250 W/300 kit, 2013 CR125
    Other Motorcycles:
    1987 Harley FXLR 10th year edition
    Hahaha yea, that's right!
  19. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
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  20. SmokeyExpress Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Canberra Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 WR300, 1996 WR360,2013 WR125
    360 wr means woods racer not wide ratio

    hahahahahahaha!
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