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610SM wheels on a TE450?

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Hi Cafe Husky folks.
Question: Will the wheels and brakes from a 2006 SM610 bold straight up to a 2008 TE450? I think the wheels are a direct fit, but I am wondering if the front caliper from the '06 SM610 will bolt right onto my '08TE450? Or will I need a caliper relocation bracket?

For clarification, I want to use the 610 SM wheels, rotors, calipers on my '08 TE450.

Thanks!
 
Brakes likely won't work. Cannot swap TE610 and SM610 front without caliper bracket relocation, I doubt the 450 is any different. Check in the 610 threads.
 
The wheels should bolt on, but you will need a caliper relocation bracket. We do stock the stock husky relocation bracket which sells for 49.95 and you can PM me about it since it is not on the website. The bolt holes for the SM brake system are also larger so you will have to drill your fork legs for the larger bolts. You will also need to drill and tap your TE caliper to use it once you drill out the fork leg.
Good luck !
 
motosportz mike said:
The wheels should bolt on, but you will need a caliper relocation bracket. We do stock the stock husky relocation bracket which sells for 49.95 and you can PM me about it since it is not on the website. The bolt holes for the SM brake system are also larger so you will have to drill your fork legs for the larger bolts. You will also need to drill and tap your TE caliper to use it once you drill out the fork leg.
Good luck !
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Ugh. I was hoping this would be a plug and play setup. Do I understand that even with the Husky relocation bracket, I would STILL need to drill out my forks and caliper? I really, really (REALLY!), don't want to drill out my forks or caliper.

Couldn't I use TE450 bolts to bolt the bracket to my TE450 forks, and then use 610SM bolts to mount the 610 caliper to the bracket?
 
If you have access to the wheels, boot the front on without caliper or disc and check how it centers in the forks. My problem is the opposite, I used a dirt hub on the SM - alignment of hub and disc is getting tedious.
 
Planepower said:
If you have access to the wheels, boot the front on without caliper or disc and check how it centers in the forks. My problem is the opposite, I used a dirt hub on the SM - alignment of hub and disc is getting tedious.
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I can get to the bike this weekend to do this. I was under the impression that the wheels were a bolt-on direct swap, and that only the front brakes needed custom fitment or bracketry.
 
vespadaddy said:
I can get to the bike this weekend to do this. I was under the impression that the wheels were a bolt-on direct swap, and that only the front brakes needed custom fitment or bracketry.
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The SM brakes are much stronger and must use bigger bolts to hold them on. The SM fork has 10mm bolt holes and the TE fork has 8mm bolt holes. Your only other option is to not use the SM brakes and use a TE front rotor which will have to be drilled out because of the larger mounting bolts on the SM hub. Wait I guess there is one other option, you could find a set of SM 610 forks that you could switch when you change wheels. Do not look for SM 450/510 forks because those use a radial mount which is totally different. Good luck.
 
motosportz mike said:
The SM brakes are much stronger and must use bigger bolts to hold them on. The SM fork has 10mm bolt holes and the TE fork has 8mm bolt holes. Your only other option is to not use the SM brakes and use a TE front rotor which will have to be drilled out because of the larger mounting bolts on the SM hub. Wait I guess there is one other option, you could find a set of SM 610 forks that you could switch when you change wheels. Do not look for SM 450/510 forks because those use a radial mount which is totally different. Good luck.
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@Fast 1 yes, I won that auction. Was I bidding against you?
Motosportz Mike: Do you have any idea of the grade of 8 mm bolt that the TE 450 uses? Might I be able to spend a few more dollars on hardware and buy bolts that are much stronger than stock, yet still the same 8 mm size?
 
If you go that route and need a 320 disc with the 6mm holes, I may have a brand new disc up for sale soon. RAD wants my oem and built up wheel to set up properly.
 
You might try just using the TE rotor and caliber, that way all you have to do is slightly enlarge the holes in you're existing rotor to accomodate the larger bolts for the SM hub. I did this on my 610 and even though the SM brakes are stronger than the the TE I can still do stoppies or lock the front wheel, it just takes a bit more effort. You might find that the TE brakes are good enough.
 
vespadaddy said:
@Fast 1 yes, I won that auction. Was I bidding against you?
Motosportz Mike: Do you have any idea of the grade of 8 mm bolt that the TE 450 uses? Might I be able to spend a few more dollars on hardware and buy bolts that are much stronger than stock, yet still the same 8 mm size?
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The SM caliper, adapter bracket and hub all use bolts that are 2mm larger than the TE series. The easiest way to do this would be to use your TE stuff and drill the rotor like rajo suggested, although that leaves you without a rotor for your dirt wheel.
 
rancher1 said:
The SM caliper, adapter bracket and hub all use bolts that are 2mm larger than the TE series. The easiest way to do this would be to use your TE stuff and drill the rotor like rajo suggested, although that leaves you without a rotor for your dirt wheel.
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I just bouhgt a separate rotor for each set of wheels. I will say this though, if you are going to drill out the TE rotor it is a good idea to do so on a mill or drill press and to counter sink the hole deeper so that the bolt heads dont protrude out. If you feel unconfortable doing this you're self you take it to a local machine shop and they do it for a pretty reasonable price.
 
vespadaddy said:
@Fast 1 yes, I won that auction. Was I bidding against you?
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Yes was considering doing the same thing you are. However, I was planning on using another TE rotor and stock TE caliper and selling the front SM rotor/caliper to cover the cost of a new TE front rotor. Is the front wheel true? Was worried about that due to the accident the guy was in that was liquidating the set up on EBAY.
 
Ugh! It's now apparent that the correct caliper relocation bracket isn't a common part. It may, or may not, be available. I may need to get this bit machined as a one-off. If so, I want to know if I could have it machined with 610-sized bolt holes on the caliper end of the bracket, and TE450-sized holes on the fork side of the bracket. I would then use stronger bolts on the 8 mm TE side. I am not a machinist, so I don't know if I can get 8 mm bolts with the same strength as a 10 mm OEM Husky caliper bolt. Is this possible? Anyone?

I will say that as a former roadracer, I really, really want that 320 mm rotor and big Brembo caliper slowing me down when I squeeze the lever. This setup will likely see some track duty. I don't want to use the dirty bike rotor on the asphalt.
 
I'm sure you can get a better grade bolt that is WAY stronger than the OEM bolts, they are crap IMO. And the big brake is a huge advantage on the asphalt.
 
jaro51 said:
I'm sure you can get a better grade bolt that is WAY stronger than the OEM bolts, they are crap IMO. And the big brake is a huge advantage on the asphalt.
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Yeah, if I put sumo wheels on this bike, I'll probably want to do a little sumo racing with it, which means I'll need that big brake on the front.

In case anyone else is following along, I'm currently waiting for Bob at Halls to get back to me about bracket fitment. He's going to order the bracket from the aftermarket source, and then check to see if it will bolt up to the SM610 caliper, and TE forks. I hope it fits, because A)., I want to enjoy the street wheels this summer, and B)., because I would love to reward the awesome customer service from Halls. I'll post again when I know more.
 
Ok , I'm going jump in here, It was mentioned about a Fork swap .
I have two new 2009's , a SM610 and a WR250, with a 45 mm Marzocchi on the SM and a 50 mm Marzocchi on the WR. Would it be possible , and easier just to swap the entire front ends ( triple clamp, forks and ALL?)

PS , what WAS the winning bid, I was also watching it?
 
jimmyc said:
Ok , I'm going jump in here, It was mentioned about a Fork swap .
I have two new 2009's , a SM610 and a WR250, with a 45 mm Marzocchi on the SM and a 50 mm Marzocchi on the WR. Would it be possible , and easier just to swap the entire front ends ( triple clamp, forks and ALL?)

PS , what WAS the winning bid, I was also watching it?
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If you want to do some SM on the WR, then yes.
 
jimmyc said:
Ok , I'm going jump in here, It was mentioned about a Fork swap .
I have two new 2009's , a SM610 and a WR250, with a 45 mm Marzocchi on the SM and a 50 mm Marzocchi on the WR. Would it be possible , and easier just to swap the entire front ends ( triple clamp, forks and ALL?)

PS , what WAS the winning bid, I was also watching it?
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I think it lists winning bids on eBay, doesn't it? anyway, IIRC, it was something like $551, plus the $85 shipping. When the box arrived, the postage cost the seller $91.

With shipping, I paid around $630, and it came with front and rear brakes (complete, SS brake line and all), and an extra front brake master cyl. that the seller included as a freebie surprise. The rear tire is also in really good shape.
 
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