Need TE511 Chain/Sprockets Recommendation

[mlorenzini]

After a mere 700 miles my rear sprocket has almost completely worn (the flat spot at the top of the teeth is gone). I never thought a sprocket could wear so fast. I assume it's aluminum. Anybody have a recommendation for a new chain and sprocket set. I think the front sprocket is still good but I know it's good to replace all together. Links would be appreciated and what size are the stock sprockets?

 

[danny318]

Stock size is 15 and 51

 

[mlorenzini]

Is there a recommended sprocket size that is better for trail riding? Or is stock sizing ideal?

 

[JRW]

Depends on what you want. Everyone is different. I was thinking about dropping a tooth on the counter shaft for trail riding, some add a tooth or put a smaller rear for better street performance. How does the stock feel to you?

 

[mlorenzini]

I'm not finding a 51T rear but I have found 50 and 52. Would getting a 52T rear be the same as dropping a tooth on the front?

 

[JRW]

I think 3 in the rear is equal to one in the front. Others may weigh in, but pretty sure I'm correct.

 

[mlorenzini]

I think I would like to lower the gearing for more technical riding. Anybody have a source/link for a chain and sprockets? I'm new to the Husky and haven't done much parts purchasing for it yet.

 

[Dangermouse449]

I now have 3900km on my original chain & sprockets. All hard riding on dirt/mud & 2 trips on a local beach.
They still have a little wear left in them, i've been amazed but the life of them.
Do you run chain lube on your bike?

As for ratios, depends on your local area & terrain.
Stock gearing is still comfy at 60+ miles/hr(can do lots more)
1st is fairly tall for tight single track.
Most of the guys I've talked to over here run a 14 front & similar to stock rear (50/51)
Still can do 60mph, but less comfortable.

Your choice.

 

[mlorenzini]

Yes I lube the chain but keep it a bit dry to not attract dirt. How much play do you set it for? Manual says 5mm max.

 

[Big Timmy]

I run a 14/48/or 49 with my TC close ratio engine, It'll buzz up to about 65 or 70 with out getting to close to redline and I'm not pinning it, you have 1 more gear left than I do in your 6 spd. It'll ride around all day pretty much and pull just about anything in 3rd gear here in S.E. AZ. Until I get into the slow speed tight rocky storm ditches. For my wide ratio 5 spd G450X engine I ran 13/48 for the same tight stuff. My 5th gear in my TC engine is the same ratio as the 4th gear in my Wide ratio G450X 5spd engine. 5th is an overdrive about like your 6th.

 

[Michelmoel]

I run a 14/48/or 49 with my TC close ratio engine, It'll buzz up to about 65 or 70 with out getting to close to redline and I'm not pinning it, you have 1 more gear left than I do in your 6 spd. It'll ride around all day pretty much and pull just about anything in 3rd gear here in S.E. AZ. Until I get into the slow speed tight rocky storm ditches. For my wide ratio 5 spd G450X engine I ran 13/48 for the same tight stuff. My 5th gear in my TC engine is the same ratio as the 4th gear in my Wide ratio G450X 5spd engine. 5th is an overdrive about like your 6th.

+1

I run the same setup on my TE450 when i go to the enduro track, but on the road i do 15 in front and 50 back+.

Yes 3 teeth back is pretty much the same as 1 in front, like 99% the same.

You kinda have to try it out and see what you like best, thats what i did, buy cheap sprockets and fint out what you like best, then buy the real deal!
Good luck!

 

[Cosmokenney]

Is there a recommended sprocket size that is better for trail riding? Or is stock sizing ideal?

I run a 14 / 52 and ride almost exclusively on single track trails. When I'm on the road I go slow anyway so as to not wear down my nobs as much. I think the 14 / 52 combo is quite popular.

 

[Tinken]

I run 14/52 mainly and 15/48 for dual sport rides. My gear ratios are a little different than yours, although the 14/52 will still work very well. I use all DirtTricks Ironman sprockets. They are stronger and last longer than even SuperSprox. I didn't have to replace my Ironman sprocket on my KTM race bike until after 6000 race miles.

@BitTimmy - A 14/48 is the same as a 15/51 and your 5th is 33% higher than the Husky 6th gear. 13/48 is almost identical to a 14/52. It's better to run a larger CS sprocket, easier on the sprocket and chain, though more $ to change out the rear.

 

[Lon]

This will give you an idea of the difference...

http://www.gearingcommander.com/

 

[Big Timmy]

As "Tinken" has stated above if he is talking about my G450X wide ratio 5 spd. gear box and he must be because he can't be talking about the TC gearbox. Who knows what gear box he is talking about but he says "your 5th is 33% higher than the Husky 6th gear". The G450X 5th gear is a 0.883 overdrive ratio, The Husky TE has a 6th gear ratio of 0.092. Its an overdrive ratio also.

How a 0.883 - G450 X 5th gear ratio works out to be "33% higher" than a ratio of 0.92 - TE 449/511 Huskys 6th gear ratio????? He should know though, he has one of these gear boxes himself.

Maybe I'm missing something here.
A ratio of 0.883 compared to 0.920. = 33% higher?

I'm confused now. Are all of you?

I realize the bigger back sprocket (51 tooth) with a 15 front would be the about the same as my 14/48 combo but ground clearance in the rocks and ravines I constanly ride in is an issue. So rear sprocket diameter comes into play here and clearance in my rear chainguide as well on the bottom of the swingarm. I don't want to have to have 2 chains to run this combo of sprockets. Or run an extra link and 2 masterlinks.

 

[danny318]

Is there a recommended sprocket size that is better for trail riding? Or is stock sizing ideal?

I really like a 13t front and 51 rear for trail riding. Can crawl along comfortably. Most people say its too low though

 

[Dangermouse449]

Like lots of things in life, there's no right or wrong single answer.
Comes down to whatever suits what you do in your normal ride.

My old Yami WR450F ran great in the bush on 14/50 but had enough room to adjust for 15/50 for a trip up the beach for 100-130kph + power slides

 

[La Flama Blanca]

15/43. Straight supermoto. Nice gearing for the street. Would like to try a 45 or 46 tooth. Miss that wheel lifting spunk the stock gearing had... These Warp9 rims are heavy as well.

 

[Big Timmy]

Tinken said,

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Tinken,
Please could you explain the math you used to come up with the above statement that my "5th is 33% higher than the Husky 6th gear".

BMW G450X has a .088 5th gear.
Husky TE has a .092 6th gear.

.088 divided by .092 = .956
Or you could do this.
.092 divided by.088=1.045

You can see, even if the ratios are reversed and then divided how does that = 33% higher?

There is only 2 possible ways to do this and come up with an equation.

Which clearly makes one of the equations above incorrect.

So where did the "33% higher" figure you stated come from?

I am baffled??

 

[Tinken]

I made a mistake in posting 33% higher and I had to go back to my original posting here: http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/449-overdrive.31853/#post-295638 in order to figure out where that came from. The ratio changes between 4th and 5th on the BMW transmission is 33% more as compared to 4 to 5th on the TC transmission. .16 compared to .21 is 31.25% actually. Sorry for the confusion.

The TE and TC transmissions are identical, minus the 6th gear. The TE's have an overdrive. Not a very good one, talk to Husky on that one.

TC449

1st 32/14 2.29:1
2nd 30/16 1.88:1
3rd 23/15 1.53:1
4th 25/20 1.25:1
5th 24/23 1.04:1

TE449

Ratios:
1st 32/14 2.29:1
2nd 30/16 1.88:1
3rd 23/15 1.53:1
4th 25/20 1.25:1
5th 24/23 1.04:1
6th 22/24 0.92:1

As far as sprockets are concerned, the diameter difference between a 48 and 51 rear sprocket is negligible. Even Cory Graffunder, who put his husky into rocks all the time ran a 50-52 rear sprocket in the rear. The damage is going to occur from hitting rocks regardless there, but the stress you are putting on your chain, sprocket and CS bearing going from a 15 down to a 13 is far greater. I played around with a 13/51 and it was too low in first, but 14/52 seemed pretty balanced, while still providing stump pulling power in 1st. Top speed with this ratio is about 83mph and cruises around 55. I use the same chain going between sprocket sizes. I have 3 rear wheels, two with 52's and one with a 48 (dual sport). I lengthened my husky chain to ride back 22mm while using 14/52's and pull in the adjustment when switching to 15/48's which were the original BMW sprocket ratios and still is good on most trails. This also provides a more stable rear end when working off road, yet a shorter turn radius with the dual sport tires when I bring it in.