• 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

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Problems with TC250, 2010

wally111

Husqvarna
B Class
Need some help, I had these problems before our State round a couple of weeks ago, and the bike did not go the distance.
Bike runs fine when cold, when it warms up it starts missing and eventually stops, when I check the plug it is white, the bike just runs out of fuel , I think we have an ignition problem
Bike starts straight away after it stalls, can it be the black box?
To put more wait to my argument I installed a 220 main jet, 45 pilot jet and needle on position 6.
The bike should flood but it doesnt.
 
Hi Wally

Well it sounds ignition related, there's no reason why a carb should stop working when the bike gets hot...

Things to check: new plug, plug cap fixed on lead and ignition coil earthed OK. After that I'd check the inlet rubber just in case and valve clearances in case you have a real tight one.

Good luck!

Dave
 
Thanks for your reply Dave,

I tried all the above and went on to test the coil, stop button, gear sensor and the throttle position sensor all seem ok.
I now think that it is either the CDI unit or the stator.
Leaning towards the CDI because of the grey coloured plug, (CDI not advancing ).
Will have to find another CDI to test, I believe KTM uses the same ignition?
We got plenty of KTM here but not another TC250 :confused:
 
No luck, drove to town and borrowed a CDI from an KTM 250,
Kick her over and snapt the kickstarter shaft, then gave up and pushed her in the corner:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
It was a commen problem on the previous bikes, looks like they havent fixed the problem, Since we received the bike in September it has been out of action for a total of 4 months, after 37 hours the piston broke, distroying the head, barrel and crankshaft, 20 hours after that the inlet valves got stuck and destroyed another head, all this was fixed by Husky Australia but they have since told us that they are no longer willing to help, 1 hour after the last rebuild the bike seized again and now all this, go and buy a KTM and fry some eggs on the TC250

Last year we rode a Husky CR125, same there noting but problems, with the frame craking, exhaust pipe and mufflers splitting, clutch problems etc.

A man can only take so much.
 
wow ... thanks for reporting all this ... I've been wondering about the new 010 engines ... Dropping weight means less strength and this can lead to big
mechanical problems ... I never heard or saw how much this light engine was tested either ...

What type of riding are you doing on the bike?
What 125 were you riding and what type of riding?

yep, ktm has handed husky its a$$ with bike sales ... I almost purchased a ktm myself till I found out that husky still made bikes .. lol ...

I'd be toasted if all that happened to me ... I'm setting here hoping my 08 TXC250 lasts ~10 years :)
 
That sucks. Wonder what the issue was. Why didn't the dealer sort out the running problem? I'm really surprised by your 125 experience as i have only heard the reposts of near legendary reliability.
 
Wally111 can you give us chronolgical recount of what happened and when, including the type of riding etc. This story is concerning and needs to be aired through this site. Who knows it may get some traction for you if you keep emotions out of it and just tell us as it is. I do feel for you (assuming you undertook all the usual breaking and maintenance requirments) and feel that the outcome for you is very poor for the brand and it needs to be sorted and made clear that the people who keep Husqvarna afloat are not going to go quietly in the dark. Over to you, lets hear the full story mate.
 
OK, to be fair, this first up, the riding conditions here in Western Australia are extreme, we have sandy track like they have in Holland and Belgium, on top of that we have high temperatures 30C+.
My Son is an Expert, A grade Rider, So when we go riding he will do 30 min. motos, with the bike under constant load.
But so are the other brands like KTM, Suzuki etc and all off these last a full season.

The CR 125 2009 after a few rides the exhaust pipe peeled open like an banana, I had to go and buy A HGS pipe to be able to keep going, Husky replaced the pipe but we had to wait about 2 to 3 months, The replacement lasted about 2 hours before that cracked open, then the the muffler started cracking, I live in the bush so I welded it up, it cracked again and again, in the end I fitted a KX muffler, no more problems.

In the mean time the frame cracked just above the first engine mount.
Had It welded (TIG) by professional.
2 weeks later frame cracked again this time both tubes and when I say cracked nearly all the way thru after 2 heats on race day, if I wouldend have notice the bike could have snapt in 2.

I fixed the frame again and worked out where the problem was.
Strengtend the frame and installed brackets where the head bolts to the frame as these brackets broke also al the time. I replaced them with 4mm flatbar brackets and they also broke after a while (talk about flex in the frame).
Husky send me an replacement frame but that also broke.

So all up an season of continues work, at the the end of the season Husky ( to late ) came with an update kit New exhaust, muffler and head/frame mounting brackets.

We also suffered clutch problems thru the entire season.

Husky aware of all my problems took back the bike and gave me a TC250 for a very good price, I was more than happy the deal, but in reality I could not have sold on the bike as it was not save.

We received the 250 I think in September '09, bike was going great but just before Christmas the bike went bang, Faulty piston.
OK this happens, but the importer closed for the Christmas period, so it took 2 months to get the bike fixed by the dealer.
about 20 hours after that the inlet valves got stuck, distroying another head and piston.
My initiall dealer was asking me what I was doing to the bike, we disagreed and I took the bike to another dealer who help me and with Huskys help fixed the bike.
That took all up 9 weeks.
The problem was, no replacement head in Australia and it had to come from Italy.
In the mean time 9 weeks past and we were looking at our first championship race for the season, no bike, no training.
The dealer helped out by offering to take the head off a new bike he had on the floor.
Received the bike back 2 days before the race.
In the second heat the bike seized again after 1 lap.

In the mean time received a letter from Husqvarna Australia stating that they had shown enough goodwill and from now on I was on my own.

Ok but tell me what the problem is so I can fix it.************************************************************************************************************************

Fixed the bike to find the next problem that started this thread.

It is the only Husky racing in WA, the bike is fast enough and handles very well, over time it can be a winner, but not without Husqvarna facing a few facts.

The bike is apart from a HGS exhaust and suspension mods. in stock condition and well maintained.
 
1st and last Husky in UR AO most likely ... :( Sounds like you guys just topped that 125 out and showed its' weak points .... Makes you wonder how the bike was tested ... Broken frames are a danger ....

The 250 sounds like you got the best of it also motor wise ... The whole engine, top and bottom, is probably toast ...

That support sounds a little weak and very slow at best ... I'm not sure how they could or would cut you off like that :( ... husky mine as well leave the country after a showing like that :(
 
Anyone read the Craig Anderson interview about racing the tc450. It's got something in it about spending lots of time strengthening the frame because it was too flexy.
I have a love-hate relationship with husqvarna. Atm i am riding a 09 wr250. It's a great bike but has stupid problems you would expect to find on a china bike. The build quality just isn't up to standard. I think it's a shame to not finish the bike properly when it's got such a brilliant engine.
We have two other husky's in the family. A 08 te250 with 310 kit and 09 txc 450. I think the 4 strokes are better finished and we have had very few problems with them. It's like they have better quality control.

For Husqvarna to move forward i really think they should just concentrate on fixing all the stupid little problems to improve their reputation.

I feel for the guy having all these issues. How fast he is or how he rides has nothing to do with it. These are competition bike's built to be given a hard time.
 
Pro level mx/sx is though on bikes. I've heard of a local 250f pro rider that goes through 5-6 engines per season. He was riding Honda I believe. I can't say it way true because info like that is always second hand and the riders don't like to say bad stuff about there sponsors. All I can say is seeing these guys ride a track, and the number of hours they put in it's not that surprising.
 
Thank you Wally111. I beleive that the service you recieved was intermitent at best. The lack of support from the dealer and Husky Australia is appauling considering the amount of failures you have had. I suggest very strongly that you put this matter in the hands of a lawyer and also speak with a consumer advocte. Paul Feeney Group has had a good reputation for service and support. However,it does not take much to lose good will, especially these days with electronic sites etc. I cannot imagine KTM running away from their responsibilities (in fact thay have had major issues over the last 2 years and I have not heard of them baulking at honouring their commitments). I am very uncomfortable with this outcome, it is not a way to grow market share, maintain existing clients and it will not help to promote advocay in the Husky inner circle such as CH and TT. I wish you well and hope that there is an equitable solution somewhare in this mire for you. Consumer 1, dealer and importer nil.
 
Both dealers involved have over the years been great, they have gone out of their way to get us to race meetings and supply us with parts at there own expense.
They have been trying hard to establish the brand without a lot of support.
I still believe that Husky have a good package with the new TC 250, but they have to get there act together if they are serious about taking on KTM, the reliability and part supply are just not there.:excuseme:
 
Local dealers good and not alot of help from the parent company? Sounds like an old story that bmw has not worked enough at changing... :( bmw certainly gets plenty of smuching from these husky sites for re-inventing previously used technology and moving to some sort of different bikes but myself, reading where a hard charger can break a bike by mearly racing hard, and then NOT being given what support it takes to help this customer push past the competition, is a little disturbing to say the least ... There still seems to be lacking of advertisement \ racing here in the states holding the brand back ...

They need to put some $ where it is needed to ride past a ktm as needed ... I'd hate to be there with the talent to kick some butt and my equipment was holding me back ... in my case, with no talent, it is alot easier to take having my a$$ handed to me ;)

And customer satisfaction should be game 1 even if not racing or contending ...
 
For anyone interested I finaly without help from Husqvarna solved the problem.
It took me 6 weeks and had to go and buy a KTM to race in the mean time:doh:
The red wire on the pick up coil was broken internally, so at low revs it was fine when we started racing the vibration would cause the wire to fault and the bike to stop.
My next problem now is, that my son no longer wants to race it:banghead::banghead::thumbsdown:
 
Interesting story but expensive .... funny how life is sometimes ... so simple yet such a pan ...

Guess you gonna have to go get some boots and put those bikes to good use :banana:
 
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