• Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

  • Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

SUDCO WOW!

Mick K

Mick K

Husqvarna
C Class
I just called Sudco to purchase new jets for my 1976 WR360.

I was told by Chris that they do sell the jets but he wouldn't tell me which ones, that is proprietary information. What?. So I asked how am I supposed to buy the right ones? "am I supposed to guess?" he said i guess so.

What kind of completely BS policy is that?

If I call Sumitt racing tech line they will tell me exactly which parts to buy with numbers and then happily take my order. That tells me one thing that they are completely overpriced and insecure. No money from me EVER! And I will devote a web page srtictly to publishing the jetting configuration. I will buy one configured tomorrow tear it down and post it everywhere on facebook/twitter web husky forums etal. WOW!
 
I am on the case Mick. Just give me a few days. You will have your jetting.
We know this one works.
 
Many times the individual companies spend hours configuring the correct carburetor set up for each of the carb kits they sell. If you have a similar carb and want to purchase just the jets and needles they may sell them to you on the side, but would rather sell you a complete kit already jetted. This is common practice and one reason they will not tell you their secrets. You will have to find out and test on your own or find another source unless you purchase one of their pre jetted carb kits.

For a starting point on any carb, I look at the stock carb settings for the new ones they sell online and use them for a baseline and go from there. Remember, whatever you do, only make one change at a time until you find the right combination. People on here seem pretty quick to help each other out and that's one reason I'm here.
 
Mick,

The specs I previously offered were on a pre-jetted carb that I purchased from Sudco. It was a 36mm Mik for my 76 360WR.
 
Mick K said:
I just called Sudco to purchase new jets for my 1976 WR360.

I was told by Chris that they do sell the jets but he wouldn't tell me which ones, that is proprietary information. What?. So I asked how am I supposed to buy the right ones? "am I supposed to guess?" he said i guess so.

What kind of completely BS policy is that?

If I call Sumitt racing tech line they will tell me exactly which parts to buy with numbers and then happily take my order. That tells me one thing that they are completely overpriced and insecure. No money from me EVER! And I will devote a web page srtictly to publishing the jetting configuration. I will buy one configured tomorrow tear it down and post it everywhere on facebook/twitter web husky forums etal. WOW!
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What jetting do you have in there now and does it run? Finding jetting for your bike should not be a problem here in the Vintage forum. There should be a manual available for a staring point,if not start with any 390 jetting and you will be pretty close unless you live in the Himalayas.You should be able to find jets at any bike shop cheaper than you will get them from Sudco.
 
I know I can get the jetting somehwere at sometime. Thats not the point.

In todays world there is no such thing as proprietary 35 year old information. I would have gladly purchased the parts from them at the time of the call regardless of price (within reason). They could have simply marked up the parts the appropriate amount. ie carb built to spec $202.00, carb standard $110.00, jet kit (Husky 360) $92.00 I would have said thank you and cheerfully provided my credit card and would have even paid for expedited shipping.

Instead of gaining a customer with there profit margin intact they pissed me off by quoting "the company policy" of "nana nana fooo fooo, we know you dont, and wont tell you" what a stupid and self destructive policy!
 
I think George might get you close just off the top of his head. Uptite 1 714 540-2920 9-5 Pacific Time
 
I have to side with Sudco, why should they essentially give you their information for free? Thats like calling up a suspension company and saying "Hey, I'm not going to pay you to rebuild my shock, I just want to know what shim's you use". They are in the business of selling carbs and parts, not giving out free advice, that is what Cafe Husky, the Husky Yahoo group, and any number of other places are for,
 
I can see Sudco's point here too. I think CPW has a similar policy if I'm not mistaken.
The comparison between carbs and suspension is a good one.
 
Really? Having dealt with racetech multiple times your analogies are erroneous. They are more than happy to sell me the shim stack and gold valves. How would you feel if Race tech would only sell you a complete Fork and not the components? Or tell you what they are? I wasn't looking to buy jets elsewhere just a kit. I didn't need the whole carb which I already have and don't need.

Still gonna buy one and post every component in it as they are stamped and a combination of jets is not proprietary nor copyrighted or patented.
 
Mick K said:
Really? Having dealt with racetech multiple times your analogies are erroneous. They are more than happy to sell me the shim stack and gold valves.
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Correct, they will sell you the shims if you buy their Gold Valves to put them on.
 
Ok at least they will have two customers. I find holding back information as arrogant and self serving.

I called and spoke with George at Uptite Husqvarna and he was more than happy to share whatever knowledge he had. I can assure you that I won't even question a price from him on any future service or product that I need. I'll just call him first. Sorry I just find SUDCO's position as silly and counterproductive. Actually it really surprised me when the actual words came out of a businesses mouth of "we dont sell a kit and I won't tell you what components to buy" because its a secret (I added the last part)
 
Well, we are going to agree to disagree. :)
I have purchased things from Race Tech and I don't ever recall seeing complete fork assemblies on their website. The shim stacks they do sell, need to be used to make the valves they sell you work. See the pattern here?



Kartwheel68 said:
I have to side with Sudco, why should they essentially give you their information for free? Thats like calling up a suspension company and saying "Hey, I'm not going to pay you to rebuild my shock, I just want to know what shim's you use". They are in the business of selling carbs and parts, not giving out free advice, that is what Cafe Husky, the Husky Yahoo group, and any number of other places are for,
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Most suspension companies don't make custom high flow base or mid valves. their stacks are figured after spending a lot of time to find out what works with the stock valves. Try calling LTR, HOH etc and ask to buy just the shims. I suspect that I know what you would hear:lol:

Did you call JD Jetting for your jets? He sells jet kits or did you not want to pay for his time figuring out what you need either?

Like what has been said, there is everything you need to know about your jetting available free. You just need to dig in and find it.
 
X,
No problem would have agreed with your last word except for this line.
He sells jet kits or did you not want to pay for his time figuring out what you need either?
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I guess you just didn't take the time to read like the 6th post down.
I would have gladly purchased the parts from them at the time of the call regardless of price (within reason).
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And i have searched this site as well as others and I guess its just this "super secret Husky kind of society" that I as a mere mortal from the heartland (fly over country) (still put people in jail for pot) just don't understand after 25 years of restoring old crap almost everyday of my life?
Silly me!!! I forgot this is like Raiders of the lost Ark!
 
Mick K said:
X,


And i have searched this site as well as others and I guess its just this "super secret Husky kind of society" that I as a mere mortal from the heartland (fly over country) (still put people in jail for pot) just don't understand after 25 years of restoring old crap almost everyday of my life?
Silly me!!! I forgot this is like Raiders of the lost Ark!
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Well Mick I see you amended your post to exclude the name calling-

I'm glad you got your information in about 24 hours after your first post here. I don't understand the "secret society" or "Raiders of the lost Ark" comparisons though?:excuseme:

BTW,
70s Huskys are some of my favorite eye candy and hope to see some pictures of your bike.
 
Xcuvator said:
Raiders of the lost Ark?
Anyway, you posted


Well Mick I see you amended your post to exclude the name calling-

I'm glad you got your information in about 24 hours after your first post here. I don't understand the "secret society" or "Raiders of the lost Ark" comparisons though?:excuseme:

BTW,
70s Huskys are some of my favorite eye candy and hope to see some pictures of your bike.
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Whatever the post was about a poor customer service experience with a new vendor not you. Do you have the specs?.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/332869-sudco-pe24mm-carb-reviews/


http://www.honda305.com/forums/beware-sudco-carb-kits-junk-t7440.html

This is the best note customer = dealer

http://www.bikerhotline.com/pr/2012/12_sudco_big_small_campaign/

"There are a few big distributors out there who require huge monthly order volumes, or minimums, if dealers want to buy from them. Sudco just doesn't think that's right, especially in the current economic climate, and for smaller dealers and repair shops who might only need a set of NGK Spark Plugs, an RK Chain, Sudco Piston Kit or a Vesrah Gasket Set to get their customer back on the road. Whatever size the order, it's just as important to Sudco as it is to the dealer."
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that's the beauty of capitalism, you don't like one guys deal get it somewhere else. I will say if someone takes the time and effort to sort something out at that point knowledge is worth money. You could buy a handful of jets and spend days sorting it out or pay someone a few bucks for the time and research they did. It is completely your choice.
 
Mick K said:
Whatever the post was about a poor customer service experience with a new vendor not you. Do you have the specs?.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/332869-sudco-pe24mm-carb-reviews/


http://www.honda305.com/forums/beware-sudco-carb-kits-junk-t7440.html

This is the best note customer = dealer

http://www.bikerhotline.com/pr/2012/12_sudco_big_small_campaign/
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Yeah sounds like you may be better off without one of their kits anyway. I had similar a few years ago buying a pre jetted non stock carb for a particular bike from one of the big suppliers. I spent a ton of time and money before I finally got a JD kit with his needles. Problem solved.
Interesting about the 305 forum, I have two out in a shed and hope to get started on one.
George is great, isn't he?
 
Mick K said:
Really? Having dealt with racetech multiple times your analogies are erroneous. They are more than happy to sell me the shim stack and gold valves. How would you feel if Race tech would only sell you a complete Fork and not the components? Or tell you what they are? I wasn't looking to buy jets elsewhere just a kit. I didn't need the whole carb which I already have and don't need.

Still gonna buy one and post every component in it as they are stamped and a combination of jets is not proprietary nor copyrighted or patented.
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You may or may not do that,they ground off the part numbers on the needle on one of mine.Without gage drills or understanding how to mesure a needle to cross reference it,you may never know.
I understand what it takes to make carbs work right,and some needles are one off grinds. So if you want that info pay the man,if not dont. I went down this road before so i get it.
 
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