• Hi everyone,

    As you all know, Coffee (Dean) passed away a couple of years ago. I am Dean's ex-wife's husband and happen to have spent my career in tech. Over the years, I occasionally helped Dean with various tech issues.

    When he passed, I worked with his kids to gather the necessary credentials to keep this site running. Since then (and for however long they worked with Coffee), Woodschick and Dirtdame have been maintaining the site and covering the costs. Without their hard work and financial support, CafeHusky would have been lost.

    Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been working to migrate the site to a free cloud compute instance so that Woodschick and Dirtdame no longer have to fund it. At the same time, I’ve updated the site to a current version of XenForo (the discussion software it runs on). The previous version was outdated and no longer supported.

    Unfortunately, the new software version doesn’t support importing the old site’s styles, so for now, you’ll see the XenForo default style. This may change over time.

    Coffee didn’t document the work he did on the site, so I’ve been digging through the old setup to understand how everything was running. There may still be things I’ve missed. One known issue is that email functionality is not yet working on the new site, but I hope to resolve this over time.

    Thanks for your patience and support!

suspension delima

WHITEROCKET5.9

Husqvarna
AA Class
takin the bike in to the shop in another week or two to finally get the springs changed to fit my weight, thing is it seems about right for trails and such, could even be a lil softer but at the same time its waaaayyyyy to soft for mx jumping...i like to do both, do any of you have a do it all bike? is it possible to be able to launch on the mx track and then soften it up enough to tackle the trees, stumps and rocks?
 
dude, the opinion on this will vary greatly and honestly it is tough to find a do it all suspension but I do fee it is possible depending on your racing level I>E< A B or C class. For and B or C rider for sure you could get a compromise!!Even a A rider I believe could get a compremise, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE PERFECT FOR EITHER!! I had a true Fast By Ferrachi 125 in I think 2001 and I kyped that front fork and rear shock, and kept it for my 250 WR/CR (it was on 2 different 250's) This suspension worked pretty well in the woods and on a moto track! For woods I just backed off the compression. It was not perfect, but was hard to bottom, but yet soaked up rocks and what not. Tell your suspension guy what you want and be very SPECIFIC**************************************** For me I do more woods stuff, so I prefer a softer bike. I'm faster on a soft bike and would rather take my chances with having to save it in a bad situation (I.E. deep hole, ball slapper, body fully extended upward, slam back down on bike, pray for a second holod WFO and keep going!) then have a stiff bike that deflects all the time and of course sends you for the trees!!! Every rider varies greatly and will have a different opinion, and what works for one guy may not work for another!!! Talk to your suspension guy and see what he says!! This sounds crazy, but if you are a dedicated rider but only have one bike and plan on keeping it for awhile you could pop for a used fork and shock and have one revalved for woods and one for moto!! Hec even drinking beer you could change out the forks and the shock in a hour or so (ok hour and a half between phone calls and the wife bothering me!) The double suspension if I only had one bike is probably what I would do. If you are a dedicated racer the extra suspension is a good idea. I>E> race on sunday, shock blows out (has happened to me!) saturday. Have spare, great change it. So what even if enduro with moto shock, back off compression and ride a little slower!! Better then a blown shock that is just a spring!!
 
thanks for chimin in on this, i figured everyone would have different opinions lol just seein how everyone has theirs setup if they do the same stuff as me. jay said to come in the end of next week and well go over what all id like to do with it. lookin forward to gettin it setup for me
 
Yep, probably pretty hard to forks setup to work in both types of riding you are referring to above ... But you might can get something you can live with ... I guessing you can because the jumps on your track are not so big ... But your body weight is big so I have to hedge back here some ... The suspension guys are pretty good nowadays I think ...

With the stock shim stack, My forks (08 TXC250, CC zokes) were bottoming on small jumps but OK in the woods ... so MH advised to set my compression shims to a straight stack & make ~1 change to the MID valve ... I had no extra shims so we had to work with what came in the forks ...

This stiffened the forks up plenty for the tracks and was OK for trails ... I just open the clickers wide-open for trails and close them 8-10 clicks for the track .. .
Not too great anywhere but no deflecting, no real big bangs, no harshness either ... But some feed on trails ... They were very bad in dried up creek beds type riding... The ones covered in small fist sized stones ... Or HS roads covered in embedded,small rocks ...

Recently, I lowered my outer chamber fluid level to 240ml ( I hope this is not too low for the good of the fork )... This fixed the creek bed riding stuff and made overall trail riding pretty .... Not sure about the track stuff at 240CCs oil but I'll find out about this later this week as racing season is here it seems ...

I should also add that I do not like true plush forks ... A little feed back is OK to keep it real ....ESP in HS stuff ...But no deflecting please ....

Instead of swapping forks, you can swap out the CMP valve on the top of the forks and have a different shim stack for each type riding .. Springs should be OK for both types of riding ... Their main job is to hold the bike up under your weight as a starting point for the suspension ...
 
Yep, probably pretty hard to forks setup to work in both types of riding you are referring to above ... But you might can get something you can live with ... I guessing you can because the jumps on your track are not so big ... But your body weight is big so I have to hedge back here some ... The suspension guys are pretty good nowadays I think ...

With the stock shim stack, My forks (08 TXC250, CC zokes) were bottoming on small jumps but OK in the woods ... so MH advised to set my compression shims to a straight stack & make ~1 change to the MID valve ... I had no extra shims so we had to work with what came in the forks ...

This stiffened the forks up plenty for the tracks and was OK for trails ... I just open the clickers wide-open for trails and close them 8-10 clicks for the track .. .
Not too great anywhere but no deflecting, no real big bangs, no harshness either ... But some feed on trails ... They were very bad in dried up creek beds type riding... The ones covered in small fist sized stones ... Or HS roads covered in embedded,small rocks ...

Recently, I lowered my outer chamber fluid level to 240ml ( I hope this is not too low for the good of the fork )... This fixed the creek bed riding stuff and made overall trail riding pretty .... Not sure about the track stuff at 240CCs oil but I'll find out about this later this week as racing season is here it seems ...

I should also add that I do not like true plush forks ... A little feed back is OK to keep it real ....ESP in HS stuff ...But no deflecting please ....

Instead of swapping forks, you can swap out the CMP valve on the top of the forks and have a different shim stack for each type riding .. Springs should be OK for both types of riding ... Their main job is to hold the bike up under your weight as a starting point for the suspension ...
Good point with todays tech maybe he can just do that! Not a bad idea! Never hurts to have spare hard parts though!
 
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