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TE449 PCV Zipty Tunes

bhuizer

bhuizer

Husqvarna
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I apologize in advance for a possible repetitive question.

My bike is a 2013 449, stock airbox, decatted (large) silencer, and all emmissions gone. I installed the PCV last night and uploaded the “Factory” Zipty map. The bike started up good and it was raining so I haven’t had a chance to take it for a ride. I’m assuming it will be running pretty rich with the stock airbox and the decatted silencer which doesn’t flow quite as well as aftermarket.
Does anyone have experience or time on a bike running either the “Factory” or “Burson” map on a similar setup without auto tune? Is there potential for significant damage as in cylinder wash, etc? I plan to add autotune in the future as I understand the advantages, but was planning to run this setup for a bit to see how it does. I’m just curious how “aggressive” the fueling is on these maps.
 
I would just run powercommanders map if your all stock (decatted) PCV's map works fine with that set-up.
I would still richen it up a little from 1500 rpm to 2500/3000. The zip ty map works great with aftermarket
Pipe as advertised (i run it) . Burson map is for TC airbox and full exhaust. The zipty map might be ok with
Stock pipe but why? It was tuned for open exhaust. I run a 5 instead of 0 from 1500 to 2500, seem good,
Don't be afraid to experiment in small increments to see what works for you. I have found the PCV to be
A great tool,
 
James Patton said:
I would just run powercommanders map if your all stock (decatted) PCV's map works fine with that set-up.
I would still richen it up a little from 1500 rpm to 2500/3000. The zip ty map works great with aftermarket
Pipe as advertised (i run it) . Burson map is for TC airbox and full exhaust. The zipty map might be ok with
Stock pipe but why? It was tuned for open exhaust. I run a 5 instead of 0 from 1500 to 2500, seem good,
Don't be afraid to experiment in small increments to see what works for you. I have found the PCV to be
A great tool,
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Can you reiterate what you mean by the power commander map? Does the PCV come pre-loaded with a map for the 449/511? I did not even look into it and went straight to loading the Zipty maps that Tinken posted.
 
I run the Burson map with a stock decatted pipe and it runs very well. Probably a little rich but not cylinder wall washing rich. Just load it up and forget about it till you can get to the dyno.
 
bhuizer said:
I apologize in advance for a possible repetitive question.

My bike is a 2013 449, stock airbox, decatted (large) silencer, and all emmissions gone. I installed the PCV last night and uploaded the “Factory” Zipty map. The bike started up good and it was raining so I haven’t had a chance to take it for a ride. I’m assuming it will be running pretty rich with the stock airbox and the decatted silencer which doesn’t flow quite as well as aftermarket.
Does anyone have experience or time on a bike running either the “Factory” or “Burson” map on a similar setup without auto tune? Is there potential for significant damage as in cylinder wash, etc? I plan to add autotune in the future as I understand the advantages, but was planning to run this setup for a bit to see how it does. I’m just curious how “aggressive” the fueling is on these maps.
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I suggest a PM to Tinken ...hes the one who posted the maps.
 
James Patton said:
I would just run powercommanders map if your all stock (decatted) PCV's map works fine with that set-up.
I would still richen it up a little from 1500 rpm to 2500/3000. The zip ty map works great with aftermarket
Pipe as advertised (i run it) . Burson map is for TC airbox and full exhaust. The zipty map might be ok with
Stock pipe but why? It was tuned for open exhaust. I run a 5 instead of 0 from 1500 to 2500, seem good,
Don't be afraid to experiment in small increments to see what works for you. I have found the PCV to be
A great tool,
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How high are you guys bumping up the fuel table sin this area to prevent flame outs? I tried 5, 10, 20 , 30 and I could still make the bike die..
 
The map from powercommander V is for the 511. I only bumped mine from zero to 5 from 1500 to 2500 rpm.
My bike will stall if I load it so the RPM dips below idle spped, but so will my other bikes. If the RPM is kept
Above 1950 (idle) it does not stall. You may have another problem. The reason I don't run maps not tuned
For my set up such as them nick map, is that they were tuned with more fuel/air, and the bike may run ok,
But without checking the airfuel ratio, you may be carboning up the combustion chamber and valves.
 
Rode the bike for a few miles tonight with the Zipty Factory Map. Seems to run well through the RPM range. The bike ran pretty well before the PCV, but it is noticable stronger right off of idle and through the revs. 1st-2nd wheelie right off idle and it pulls the front wheel about midway through the revs in 3rd with factory gearing. There's a shop about 45min. away that is a certified PCV tuner with a dyno. So I may take it up and get it checked out to make sure the AFR is good.
 
Whittaker said:
If I recall correctly the 449 map from the dynojet site is the older 450 map. This is what the description says when you open the map. The 511 maps seem to be labeled correctly.
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It says 450, but doesn't match the 450 map they have available. Also doesn't match the 511 map, so who knows what it is. I would probably try the TE511 map (M23-007-002) with a basically stock 449.
 
I have a 2011 te449 with FMF and tc airbox. I tried all the factory map and burson map, both ran well. The best map so far for me is SCHOOPS map. Do a search on the forum, he had posted it. My bike wheelies 1-4 with no effort.
 
The maps for the 250/310/449/511 on the DynoJet website are written by Zipty Racing. These are very mild intended as entry level maps for dyno or autotune.

The ZipTy Factory race map works well with all setups. It is a two dimensional, cookie cut, dyno'd map with smooth power throughout the power band. Ty wrote this map based on one specific a/f ratio to give the bike a very consistent, electric type of power.This is very reliable for racing and works on all surfaces and terrains.

The Burson map is anything but cookie cut. I wrote this map because I wanted a racing map that was not obtainable on the dyno. It is an experimental map, written based upon specifications of how, where and when I wanted the engine to perform while racing. It was designed to be used with race fuels, but 95RON (91 octane) is okay.

These maps offer a great low/high power combination when a handle bar switch is added. The PCV switches on the fly, with zero time delay which would add even better functionality.

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/zi...powercommander-5-race-maps.33459/#post-315951
 
Here is the Schoops map: http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/2011-te449-dyno-results.25421/#post-289295

The Schoops is a very basic 2D map, but with no ignition timings. There is a second shifter section if you have the shifter switch installed. I find it odd that it is a basic 13.2% increase of fuel across the board with no specific adjustments which means the technician was just adding fuel generically. The shifter section looks way too fat (a 40% increase in fuel on top!), but without the shifter switch, this side of the map will not activate or will stay in the 1st gear map.
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I've had some more time with the bike and it seems to be running well with the Zipty Factory map.

Still having some starting issues though. Added the earthx battery, and though the bike does crank better it still does not want to fire up once in a while. Does anyone have suggestions on PCV settings to help with this problem? It will crack off instantly at times and other times it will crank for 10 seconds coughing and sputtering until it finally fires.

This starting problem has been driving me crazy. I have a friend with a G450X that fires up instantly every time while I'm sitting there cranking it over trying to get mine started.
 
bhuizer said:
Thanks for the responses guys. I've had some more time with the bike and it seems to be running well with the Zipty Factory map.

Still having some starting issues though. Added the earthx battery, and though the bike does crank better it still does not want to fire up once in a while. Does anyone have suggestions on PCV settings to help with this problem? It will crack off instantly at times and other times it will crank for 10 seconds coughing and sputtering until it finally fires.

This starting problem has been driving me crazy. I have a friend with a G450X that fires up instantly every time while I'm sitting there cranking it over trying to get mine started.
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I found that setting the throttle position sensor 'calibration' in the PCV is helpful. You tell the PCV what voltage 0% throttle and 100% throttle is.
Do this in the power commander tools menu while hooked up the PCV while the bike is ON (not running) so you can see your min and max voltage.
 
Does anyone have suggestions for flame-out prevention with the PCV, in particular with the Zipty Factory Map? I am looking to learn more on how to adjust the fuel/ignition settings and what the numbers mean.
 
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