1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

125-200cc 09 Wr 125 Bog/Performance Solved?

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by dartyppyt, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. LawnDartMike Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Salem, OR USA
    Definitely jetting before springs.! I was chasing a mid flat spot with jetting but it turned out the spring combo I was using was the cause of it. We need a little gif that show you shooting yourself in the foot.
  2. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    I did the same thing. :banghead: Thats why I posted that. Contrary to why the spring kit is supposed to do i feel my bike would run better with stiffer springs not softer.
  3. LawnDartMike Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Salem, OR USA
    Yup. I went to the stock/silver and the flat spot went away went away. The off/on pipe transition was also smoothed out.
  4. rockdancer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 WR125, 2019 FE350

    Just wanted to say Im happy that youre happy:cheers:
    its a good feeling when this bike rocks
  5. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    Most of the guys have forgotten how horrid some of these 09 WR125's ran out of the box with the factory supplied jetting. :excuseme: Higher elevation made it even worse. Getting the jetting right was the single most important factor in saving the bike from an ebay any price takes it. The lack of acceptable needle options with the TMXX made the PWK a necessity and brought the bike to life. Too bad the one you can easily buy doesn't fit well.

    The discovery of the RM needles should save a lot of owners a lot of money. The outer PV springs were a crutch that made mine at least ride able but with a flat spot. I still like the ability to change the nature of the scoot with the inner springs. Kudos to all the guys that have put so much time and effort into solving the mystery. :cheers:
  6. water racer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    http://www.knoxenduro.com Knoxville, Tennessee
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Beta 250RR
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 Husqvarna WR125 1997 Fantic
    Walt,
    I agree 100 percent, except I think your spring kit makes the bike even better once it is jetted. The springs smooth out the hit which really helps in the tight woods.
    I now have a 36mm pwk and my bike runs like a dream.
    GP
  7. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Hats off to the guys/gals like Walt, Kelly,Norm,Colo Moto,Woodschick, and everyone else! We can't forget that we wouldn't be this far without all their work. Like all of us, we all have read those threads over and over and over. They helped us get boggy/flat spot bikes running pretty darn good! You guys are the ones that made me buy my bike in the first place! Right now, I would not hesitate buying another one!
  8. crille74 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sweden
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna cr 125 2014
  9. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Crille,

    Post all your jetting, plus all the modifications you've done top your bike. What's your plug look like? I will start a new thread. Jetting recomendations with RM needle.

    New Ground Plowing:

    I raced mine in the 40's and ran a little leaner on the plug (Light Tan). Me, I'd like it a little browner. Now I am back in the 70's, so I have to wait till it gets cool again. My WR 250 manual says to go 2 sizes richer on the mains but it still ran better on the
    460. Walt's recommended trying 47.5 pilot and keep the 460 main. I will do that first. I will also try a full clip move richer or use the washer and holder to do a 1/2 clip move.

    From my observation, I seem to be good 50's +.

    Under 50 - I'm starting to lean.


    Thanx!

    Darin
  10. Vinduro Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Mississippi
    Where do you get a 47.5 pilot. Every where I look they are only sold in increments like 40-45-50. How much difference in jetting do you think it will be for a 144cc over the 125cc ???
    Dwight
  11. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Call Hall's That's where I got mine. I think you can get them also thru Suzuki, RM 125, 2004 or K4. I don't know, but we have some guys plowing new ground . We'll also get Crille 74 to post his specs with his 144.

    Thanx!
  12. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    Dwight,

    When I first made the shift to the 144, I didn't notice much if any difference in jetting requirements. Maybe slightly richer across the board but it was small. The 167 on the other hand requires significantly richer settings, especially on the main. Funny thing is that I get better mileage with the 167. Torque is a wonderful thing.

    I will have the RM needles in the next couple of days thanks to Suzuki and Darin. I will also post my results albeit at 5000'.
  13. crille74 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sweden
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Husqvarna cr 125 2014
    Hello.
    I have Pneumonia for the moment so i cant do anything now.
    But this is what i run whit god result.

    Hgs 144cc pipe and silencer
    5,0 slide
    Rm needle 2clip position
    45pilot jet
    460main jet
    Spark Plug Ngk BR9EIX
    powervalve in 3/4 from topp

    Runs absolutley great.
    Gonna test some more in a few days.
  14. Vinduro Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Mississippi
    Does anyone have a RM needle they would be willing to sell or loan till I get my own. They are currently on BO and not due till Nov 7th. I need one before that to ride the Famous Gobbler Getter Enduro in Alabama.
    Thanks,
    Dwight
  15. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Let me see If I can locate one today, thru a dealer parts search? There are alot of guys ordering them. The East cost had 3 in stock one day and I tried to order one the next day and they were all spoken for.

    Thanx!

    Darin
  16. noairkerr Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Colton Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2009 WR 125
    Other Motorcycles:
    2006 yamaha wr250f 2005 ktm 200 exc
    RM needle

    Darty, If you find a couple let me know. I think I called every dealer in the northwest...all backorder. So I wait ,would like to have one before the 24 hr at Starvation Ridge.thanks Kerry
  17. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Well my friends. There is not 1 dealer, in the US, that has one. Meaning: (registered on Suzuki's locator service). There might be a dealer out there that has one but not on the locator service. They tell me that the dealers have to pay to be on the locator service and alot of them are not. I tried some good dealers but they don't have any. Maybe one of our UK, Australian, or European friends can see if they have any. Suzuki Part # 13383-36FQO for 04 RM125 Needle 6CHY16-62.
  18. NWRider Husqvarna
    AA Class

    What about all the optional RM needles? I thought they were on the first page of this thread but could not find them. Anyway, do they just have a richer or leaner clip position? If so it seems like one of them would work fine if available.
  19. MattR 2T Forum Clerk

    Location:
    Temperance, MI
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WB165, SM610
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha FZ1
    You know there are other ways to obtain this infamous needle...

    A machine shop could whip up a batch of needles if someone provided a "RM" needle. You could customize it to your desires and sell them as a 125 tuning kit. In the end, it is only tapers and diameters and those can be matched up easily. Heck, throw on another clip position, then it becomes unique and not a RM-copy. :thumbsup:

    Seems like a good business opportunity for someone on this forum.
  20. gsxr1000user Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    wv
    Tired of dyno I wanna ride!

    I thought they may go on backorder so I ordered TWO of em. Sorry, just sent the spare to Utopia on Tuesday so he could try it in his wr250. But for you guys that don't have them I will send pics of how they work.