1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
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2011 TE449 Running well with factory EFI system - finally

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by Dangermouse449, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    Thanks for the detailed response on the modified bike.

    As mentioned elsewhere by Motosportz, perhaps the Aus/Euro ecu fueling is different.
    I have a hunch our maps are already richer that your 50 state legal ecu are(you may know already) & I don't have the free flow exhaust, head etc.


    Interesting info, hanging to see the difference in torque in the lower end of the range when you get a dyno run in.
    I do think, with the fuel added for the mod, you'll like the extra pull down low.
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  2. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    Can this be done still running with the TE ECU? And does it bring up 'Fail' on the dash if you do?
  3. Mr Ford40 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Labertouche Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    YZ250F
    Dangermouse449 did you have race map 3 on your bike before the butterfly mod etc
  4. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    I believe so, but this hasn't been confirmed yet.

    The 1st time I wanted to get the dealer to recheck it they were away at a race. I asked last time I was home from work but they said their HST was 'down'.

    Going from Tinken's info 2011 bikes may not be able to take the map & may be why mine has a different VIN no. sticker on it than my frame.
    (It had work during warranty for flameouts but the problems persisted, it had slightly more power but flamed out & ran on as before)
  5. Mr Ford40 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Labertouche Victoria Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    YZ250F
    Cheers thanks. It would be good to find out the difference and power delivery with the options put before us.
    Race Map 3
    Race Map 3 with the butterfly removal
    Race map 3 with the butterfly removal and the arm from the manual throttle body removed

    I wonder what the differences would be between all three. Now I wished I had tryied this process.:banghead: Because it's just the difference that I didnt try first makes me wonder.
  6. Lon Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Brisbane Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TE511
    When I was buying my 511, I asked Kurt at Slacks Creek about "BMW/Race map 3" and he said that "they" put a map in that is put together for Australia. Exactly what that means, I don't know for sure, but that being said it could be true what DM was saying about we have different mapping here to elsewhere.
  7. Thrasher Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    San Franciso, CA, USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 511
    How is this done? I don't see any option for it on my PCV program.
  8. James Patton Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Edwardsville, ILL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2012, WR125 2006
    Other Motorcycles:
    1250S Bandit, DRZ400S
    It is in the tools menu. Plug it into your bike. Go to configure, there you find the accel pump feature.
    I have had mine set from 5% to 10% it works. If you have trouble finding it, go to their website, excellent
    Instruction there.
  9. James Patton Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Edwardsville, ILL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2012, WR125 2006
    Other Motorcycles:
    1250S Bandit, DRZ400S
    Does not make sense to me either, but I tried it while I was in there, and it does...I do have PCV, but I did
    not change my settings, gonna have to get auto tune so I can see the AFR's, another strange thing is the cold
    start is much better, and hot start is great if you wait one minute. I am puzzled, but it does pull better down
    low. Not an engineer, just a wrench spinner?
  10. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Tinken remapped my 2011 TE511. No problem, works a good bit better.
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  11. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    As I posted, I have map3, JD, flow pipe. Removed BF for sure ran better, more power down low, more snap, more response. Super slight hesitation if I grabbed handful a gear high. Leaned mid slightly with JD and richened top slight, never ran so good ever. My bike runs absolutely perfect. Perfect response, power, off throttle, zero dead throttle issues so far. BF removal was for sure a noticeable improvement on my bike with my setup.
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  12. huskylove Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    norcal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1999 cr125 in progress
    So my cold start was better also after butterfly removal...but then I cut off the arm and now it starts but still might flameout as the idle is low cold.

    Solution is to give 2% throttle or so for maybe 10 seconds until it kind of warms up.

    Before the mod even with PCV and race map, if you start it it would hit a few times then die...hit a few more times then cough and die. Adding throttle helped usually a bit.

    Manual choke would be nice.
  13. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    In my original post, moving the TPS a hairs breadth(Like barely any) is one of the things I listed.
    The post was for 3 mods at once.
  14. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    You could always refit the butterfly & see. There are lots of older posts with bikes running perfectly well with just the Map3.

    In the original post I said I tried these mods after having the dealer try the 'regular' fixes.
    (At the time I was lead to believe it had the upgraded map installed - They didn't call it a name, just upgraded.... as soon as I can, I'll find out what that was)
  15. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    My bike ran real good with map3 and open pipe be BF removal. Part of my motivation to remove it was the dead throttle issue. What I found was it runs a lot harder and more consistent with the BF removal which I really was not expecting. Win / win.
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  16. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    The occasional dead throttle was part of the original motivator to try it in the first place, I figured I had nothing to loose & could put it back if it all went pair-shaped.
    As you say, the bottom end increase was an unexpected & very welcome side effect.
  17. huskylove Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    norcal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1999 cr125 in progress
    Hey tinken,

    I enabled the accel pump function adding 10% fuel over 50 rpm's with 4% throttle activation.

    Now when blipping the throttle and letting off I get a very loud crackle/backfire. The auto tune AFR is hard to watch but stays from 13.2-14.xx I do see a peak of 15 but that is probably when the throttle plate snaps closed and the rpms drop. Is this a sign of too much fuel being added? OR too little at 0% at higher rpm? It does not crackle/pop without the AP function?
  18. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    I was thinking it might help hughisdaft who had damaged his TE set-up before reading this post.
    He might be able to run with the flap out & wiring disconnected & not have to buy new parts....



    Before I stumbled upon this thread I tryed and failed to bypas the fbw throttle and not give it any control by taking the motor/sensor of the fbw throttle and locking the butterfly into fully open position I am now faced with a fail reading on the dash and even when replacing the motor to the original position I get a tempromental fail on the dash every second start or so. From the way you speak of not being able to remove the fbw sensor motor im guessing you have tryed and failed like myself, If so how did you replace the idle sensor regulator corectly ?
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  19. danny318 ___________

    Location:
    MA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    TTR230, '72 CT90
    What would you say is a good 'anti-stall' air fuel ratio? I'm thinking 12.0 is a good starting point for the 1500-2500 rpms, but maybe even richer
  20. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    Yes, understood.
    If TE body had/has a u/s stepper motor or sensor it could be disconnected & use the same work around setup as for TC, rather than buy a newTE body....