1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

2011 TE449 Running well with factory EFI system - finally

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by Dangermouse449, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. Apri11 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Queensland
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2016 FE 450 / 2013 TE 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    2011 Aprilia RSV4
    I'm still having issues so I've also completed the mod as per the OP, come on weekend, hurry up so I can test it out! :D
  2. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006
    you are going to love it. My friend yesterday couldn't believe the Improvement ....
  3. michiganguy Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Norther, Michigan
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE449
    If your running Map 3 is there any problem if I run 20 miles down the road? Are the high revs plus the map 3 an issue or just issue for the emissions?
  4. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    not an issue. Map 3 is richer. 20 miles is nothing.
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  5. N4544D Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Orange County CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE449 sold, 2018 TX 300 sold
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 250 XCW, KTM 500 XCF-W
    I think you are asking if sustained high RPM whist running Map 3 (assuming mode B) is an issue. The answer is no, if anything running Mode B of Map set #3 is better for your engine, given its richer A/F ratio. Yes, Mode A is for emissions and leans the engine out quite a bit.
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  6. Rearwheelin Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield , OffroadAfornia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 XCW 300
    When I had my 511 I remember posing the question of removing the top butterfly then Tinken said bad idea. Glad it's working out for those who did this mod. Not sure who blazed the path here . Seen 24 or so pages so I just had to click on this one. No surprise here. :)
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  7. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Dangermouse449
  8. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125

    Check out page 1 of the post :)

    Tinken said it was a bad idea as he had personal experience with having damaged a TE throttle body motor & didn't want people to suffer the pain of having to buy expensive parts if they made a mistake. He also talks to Husqvarna, so explaining why people are pulling parts out of bikes they built could be awkward.
    All good & fair judgement.

    It also makes no sense that the mapping still works on the near standard bikes like mine (just the Arka slip-on), but work it DOES and works well.
    Anecdotal evidence suggests there are a few dealers over here in Aus that have done this on their race bikes also & got good results.
    For the guys that have a little more done to their bike, a piggyback ecu AND the butterfly removal together is great by all accounts.

    For a zero dollar mod, it has transformed my bike from unrideable (literally) to 'can't wait until the next ride'!! :thumbsup:
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  9. 9880sts Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006


    cant wait either for next ride.... agreed and nuf said. !!
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  10. michiganguy Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Norther, Michigan
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE449
    Thanks for the answer!!
  11. michiganguy Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Norther, Michigan
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE449
    Thanks for your time!
  12. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350

    I'm not sure which map I have but I sent the ECU in to ZipTy last year and they remapped it for me.
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  13. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350
    Thanks. I will try that. I am kind of surprised such an important sensor like the TPS is in such an open location and is plastic secured with a single screw. Seeing as these bikes are designed for use over rough ground I'd have thought the TPS would be more securely fastened. I mean what are the chances the TPS could move a hair while the bike is being caned over bumpy ground? [/sarcasm]

    I don't have a tach so accurately setting an idle is gonna be difficult. My air screw is the recommended 2.5 turns out. When the weather improves I am gonna play with it and see what effect it has on the A/F numbers.
  14. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350

    THIS is why I got an A/F gauge. Without you are just guessing.

    I also have one on my WR and once I decided to actually get the tuner sorted I discovered that the tune numbers everyone on the inter webs were accepting as gospel were actually way off. For the most part those numbers were too lean at the bottom end and way too rich at the top end. The controller settings that gave me A/F numbers in the 12-13 range ended up being mostly zero's with only the bottom end requiring any extra fuel.
  15. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350

    Off the top of my head I don't remember the A/F number for my bike at idle but IIRC it is not lean. I get flameouts when the throttle is cracked. It takes virtually no input to the throttle and the engine instantly stops.
  16. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Agreed.
    On my own bike, JUST off idle, there is a hole in the fuel map.
    Like someone forgot to put some data in a box there!
    Was there before all my mods, masked now after & doesn't stall/flameout now.
  17. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    Been building a kit meter, but not getting enough time yo finish it off :(
    Might just buy one & be done with it....
  18. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350

    I am pretty happy with the ones I have. They even can be hooked up to a data logger so you can download data from test runs etc.
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  19. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350

    I tried adjusting the TPS today. Once I worked out which way to move it, it def seems to have made a difference to the idle. Moving the TPS up slightly seemed to smooth out the idle and even increased the idle speed slightly. I need to get the bike out and ride it now. I guess I should do a TPS reset as well.
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  20. Dangermouse449 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast QLD Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 CRF450R 2000 YZ125
    I wouldn't do the TPS reset myself.
    It is the new value that the ecu is seeing they I believe helps, not sure if it will revert or help?!?
    Haven't tried it as yet myself, but at least on my own bike, it never used to make any change to the running.