Here in Europe, KTM´s and Bergs from 2013 and onwards are only equipped with either the 4CS or the OC.. The CC is not available anymore. I am surprised to learn that the US SX-models still comes with CC. Several of the Pro-level riders here are disatisfied with the 4CS, especially the ´13 4CS, and are installing used CC forks on their bikes instead. Will be very interested to see which version of the WP-forks that make its way on the production ´14 Huskys. I am hoping for the CC, but I guess the OC or 4CS is more likely.
I like the new Husky in white and blue it looks like my last real Husky, only time will tell if they go in the own direction. I think they will go away from the Berg/ KTM and will be there own bike in the long run. I`m looking forward and am also optimistic about the future of Husqvarna (welcome home son).
Cannot get those pic in here, but few better pics at the side/back view new Husky if some one not seen it http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1048566-photos-new-2014-husqvarna-husaberg-tc300-two-stroke/
Uhh, actually takt = time, as in strokes of the crank, 4 takt, 2 takt. I'm not sure on where the designations came from, but I don't think that that's it. I think they called it TC cause that's how the bergs were named, as in Two (stroke) Cross.
Is that really the bike we are going to be getting in the US? I thought I read it was a race bike pic only and not an actual race bike either. So are there any real pics of what the next gen Huskys will look like?
About another week until we see the consumer versions, from a post over on KTM Talk. Pretty sure they are going to be pretty similar, just delete the race bike bling. You'll be disappointed.... black, not blue wheels is the word. I have an extra set of blue D.I.D.'s for my Husaberg, so they are going on my new Husky. Big questions in my mind are... PDS or linkage on the Enduro version and will there be a Cross Country version, like KTM XC?
Thanks Norman . I went bike looking Saturday at Ridersville in WV as a friend of mine was picking up his new Polaris Ranger 900. They are a big bike dealer that sells GG, Kawasaki, Honda, KTM, Victory, Polaris, Husky, and a few others. After taking many bikes off their stands I was most impressed with the lightness and feel of the KTM 2014 KTM 250 SXF. Not a actual ride impression mind you but it felt great in the showroom. With the price he quoted me I almost pulled the trigger on it.
Given KTM and KTM/Berg history I cannot image they would put a link supension on an Enduro. They love PDS and seem to use link only to satisfy cries of MXers.
Let's be pragmatic here - they just haven't had the time to adequately develop linkage suspension on their enduro/trail chassis. The fact that KTM has linkage on MX bikes will make the development process quicker, but to expect it for next years bike is asking too much IMO. Something as fundamental as the rear suspension has large effects on the overall chassis and therefore bike behavior - you don't want to rush the implementation of linkage and risk having a poor performing first gen "New" Husky. I am sure linkage is on the table for 2015 onwards, but I would not say it's a certainty. KTM have revised their PDS a few times since first introduced and have resolved many of the issues riders have had with PDS. Let's not look past the fact that PDS is a lot more simple and easier to maintain than linkage, and KTM make very good bikes - so PDS cannot be that bad. I know a guy here that does a lot of racebike development and tuning that had a VERY strong dislike for PDS in its first generation, but now owns a PDS shod 'Berg and rates it very highly. In the longer term I would like to see linkage paired with the CTS swingarm on Huskies, but I'm not holding my breath.
Buddy had a 96 KTM 250 with linkage and ohlins and it worked excellent. IMHO there is no mystery to linkage and they have many SX and XC models to work off like the one pictured. I have ridden countess KTMs both PDS and link and i greatly prefer the link models. I ride with a guy with a 350 PDS and one with a linkage 350 KTM all the time as they are good friends. I also rode a 450 SX the other day and really liked it though I was not man enough for it after about 5 miles in the tight woods, just to much motor but the bike itself worked great. I haveridden several PDS bikes I liked OK with the FE390 Berg being my favorite and it worked really well for me. My opinion only.
I need to read up on PDS. All I read is the issues but I want to understand why. It's seems our local suspension guys like it (enduro spec)
Don't know why a bike with a shock bolted to the swing arm needs a fancy name like PDS. To me it means simple design that requires a longer shock. Thats a problem for the frame & airbox design engineers... but not for me. A progressive spring might be what some folks need to feel LINKED up. I have a 350 MXer I converted to a Goat trails bike. It has linkage. It meant spending money on a guard for the link from Slavens. It means I slide over boulders and rocks dragging my linkage guard when I can roll over same rocks with PDS. IMHO - The top 20% of riders might feel the difference... the top 5% might shorten their lap times by a micro second maybe because of linkage... most will never know the difference. But hey it's something else to debate and argue about right. Kinda like dogs vs cats... Fords vs Chevys... etc vs etc... Guys need that I guess.