1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

449/511 Breather hose mod

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by Croc, May 12, 2012.

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  1. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
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    many
    Great info guys thanks.

    I would love to try a TC449 in fact i would love to own one to use as my off road only 4 stroke. Right now i have a TR650, TE511 and WB165 so i feel very well outfitted for anything BUT every time I ride my 511 on hard core off road stuff I wonder how awesome a stripped down TC would be (my TE is loaded with tons of DS gear). I think i would personally rather have a TC449 than a TE310 for off road but i have not ridden the new 310R, that might change my thinking.
  2. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    Whatever the outcome, Confucius say more oil is better. I'm betting the Husky engineers are going....awww why didn't we think of that?

    There is a good reason why older Porsche flat sixes had an 11 quart oil tank, just sayin'
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  3. Tinken Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    Actually, a lot of Huskys have an oil breather built into the frame, which would of been perfect for this. This one is on BMW, and sending hot blow-by gas by the torque limiter no less. And then, to make matters worse, the oil quantities are lowered, dropping the levels in the case to where oil isn't there to cool the torque limiter. *palm to forehead*
    So... Confucius say more oil is better.
  4. Londin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Denmark
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR 449 MY11
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati 848 and Hypermotard 1100
    Just a question - how many have had 'low oil' related problems or blow'n up motors?
  5. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    That's a good question and I don't have an exact answer to that because manufactures rarely advertise known flaws. I can tell you that Malcolm Smith's torque limiter exploded 200 miles into the NORRA mexican 1000 this year and that Zip-ty racing had constant slipping annealing failures. Other pro racers I have asked acknowledge the issue and replace the torque limiter before major events. Most riders will probably not see slippage til late in the engine life, so far I am told the failures are when the engine is held wide open for extended periods of time during desert races.
  6. Londin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Denmark
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR 449 MY11
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati 848 and Hypermotard 1100
    So if you don't trash/race your bike it will not be an issue before late in the engines life? I believe that's why Husky has done nothing to compensate for it!
    I'm still interested in a solution as I do race mine and on up to 35 or more degrees!
  7. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    It's like a limited slip differential that is designed to give when you unload the engine and then reengage. I too am interested in a permanent solution. Keeping the oil @ 1150cc is a good idea. Other than that, the 449 platform is rock solid and has a massive 196 watt stator for light goodies.
  8. Suputin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350
    Where do I find a filter like this? I want to try to do this in the simplest way possible but I don't want to run any lines into the airbox anymore. I'm done with that crap.

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  9. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    Autozone has them for ten bucks.

    http://www.autozone.com/autozone/ac...25xh?itemIdentifier=266497&_requestid=1029711

    When my oil separator is finished, you will be able to just add an air filter like this to it if you do not wish to run back to the main air filter.
  10. Suputin Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SMR 511
    Other Motorcycles:
    WR250X, 81 Yamaha RD350LC, 90 RZ350
  11. Desertyucca Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 511 & TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    DR650, IT490 a few others.
  12. Tinken Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    I didn't see an oil cooler on the Simonpavey bike, but I love their rear gas tank.
    There's three ways to put an oil cooler on. You can use an oil filter cover adapter, weld and tap the case directly behind the oil filter or a combination of the two.

    Edit: Simon doesn't use an oil cooler, he uses dual fans. He wishes to test Ty Davis's oil cooler setup in the future.
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  13. R. Stephen Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Is the lower tank in the skid plate an oil cooler?
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  14. Radar Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Southern Nevada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE449

    I think they are required to carry 3 liters of water and that is probably it.
  15. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    It's water.
  16. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha

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  17. Desertyucca Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE 511 & TE 310
    Other Motorcycles:
    DR650, IT490 a few others.
  18. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    Oh yea, it's way extreme and even I wouldn't do it til I had to take my motor apart (which is hopefully never). Most riders do not have to have an oil cooler. If you are racing or running wide open for extended periods of time, then you should invest into an oil cooler.

    On the 449 platform, you have to keep the torque limiter cool or it will fail. Another way to keep it cool is to submerge it in oil, which is what I have done with the oil breather mod. I run 0w-40 synthetic at slightly above the original BMW oil level (1150cc). My flow (which is very low on these engines) is greatly increased, this not only keeps my torque limiter cool, but also quiets my engine. It's hard for me to describe it, but if you own a 449/511 you know about that funky klunking, clicking, vibration noise the engine makes and is greatly reduced with my method.
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  19. Londin Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Denmark
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    SMR 449 MY11
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati 848 and Hypermotard 1100
    Anyone ready with a kit yet?
  20. Tinken Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    I've been pretty busy this fall, but I will have time to put together a few projects next month. Also, after exhaustively searching for oil coolers, I decided to design my own. It is smaller than your fist and has a higher heat transfer than a twelve by twelve cross flow.
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