TE/TC 4CS Issues

This is almost as fun as an oil thread My problem is I always want to tweak every bike to it's full potential. It's a character flaw and a curse at the same time.

I think that once you have achieved near perfection on a bike, whether it is power delivery or suspension, (and sometimes it is by accident), you look for it more and are less satisfied until you find it. I find that as I get older I enjoy the minute tweeking of the bike more than I did when I was 16. cam.

So I did take the 501 out for a rip yesterday and so far so good. The fork dive under hard braking is much better but it still feels plush through choppy stuff. Way too soon to give any grades though. More to come.

bought some new parts for my forks yesterday, have found you can only get so far with these forks via shuffling shims.
bought some kreft mid valve pistons and race tech bottom compression adjusters, will be removing the check valves with this setup.
race tech base is pretty well the same as the mx tech one but don't require a special tool to install and can use a screw driver to adjust it unlike the 6mm hex

Also,wonder if Factory Connection,PG,SDI have to adhere to WP's (revalve manual? for continuity) or have free reign to design own mods.

my "used" Trax shock is pro name stickered Factory service, serviced shock, so you could say i'm using a WP factory services shock from the Murrietta Ca. shop.

Ok, so to report back on having my suspension revalved again. I can honestly say that this is easily the best suspension I have ever ridden. If you smash into something super hard the suspension doesn't bottom. If you are in the nastiest roots and rocks you can imagine, the suspension is totally compliant and tracks the ground like the tire is glued to it. Super fast turn around, and awesome communication as well. The factory suspension was alright for slow speed stuff but once out of 3rd and into 4th it was down right dangerous. Fast forward to Zipty. It was manageable at first in the slow stuff, and you could never bottom the suspension at speed, but after 30 or 40 minutes the suspension would pack up so badly it wouldn't track the ground at all. I finally bit the bullet and sent the forks and shock to Kreft and it's now done correctly. Sure it was 3 times the price of other tuners, but it was well worth it. I really don't enjoy taking my bike apart and letting sit on the stand for weeks on end while I ship my suspension back and forth and it's still not correct. If you're anything like me do yourself a favor, save up your money, and just have it done once. A 4CS fork "reconfigured" to be open chambered will never work as well as a properly set up closed chamber fork. I bought a Husky for a reason. Linkage, closed chamber forks, headlight, speedometer, XC-W transmission, and high quality wheels. (and it's not orange)

Good to hear you got it sorted, eventually. I'm sure you will get flamed for your statements but your exact scenario is why I chose a similar solution. In the end, it's nice to see we have a few options based on needs, geographic location, expectations and cost. Did you get the mxtech asymmetrical 4cs and huck valves?

I'm quite sure that I will get accosted for my statements. And that is fine. Every bike I've owned has had the suspension done, so I have a fairly decent pool of experience of customer service, and what works. As for what I had done, I had the Mxtech asymmetrical and the huck valve options. I also got the micro polish done as well. If any of you live close to Seattle/ BC you are more than welcome to test ride my bike.

I agree, the Kreft stuff on my Husky works really, really well. I don't like blowing up other peoples balloons, but the Kreft suspension is pretty incredible. My comparison is to Showa twin-chamber, revalved by some of the best for desert racing. I raced my Honda last weekend, and while it is good, it is not as good as my Husky revalved Kreft 4CS. I too thought the stock 4CS was downright dangerous, but it is now the best suspension I have ridden.

im still debating on kreft or stillwell ha. both seem to be very good

Kreft or mxtech. apples to apples. Stillwell is doing something different, not sure exactly but it seems like revalve and mid valve mods.

Not sure if he's running the 4cs, but Thad Duvall is riding for FAR husqvarna this year and he posted on twitter that factory connection did his and he's never been on a better setup. I'll have to go to one of the races and do some P.I.

I have pretty much had the same experience that you have. Started with Halls respring, local guy respring and valve, same guy did a 2nd revalve, sent to Zip Ty have same issues, didn't get any info on set up clickers not set, not balanced almost as firm as I can go on fork clicker comp and way way out on shock comp just to get a decent feel, gets rough after some riding guessing from oil foaming or something (no issue with my kyb's they did), they were helpful and willing to redo it but decided that wasn't what I was looking for and just sent it all off to Kreft for the works. I'm done wasting money and I haven't seen a bad review for kreft and he's rebuilt some of the other guys stuff already with happy customers in the end. The other plus is kreft will have it a day and ship back the next with specs and details. I know for me half of a good suspension is having complete confidence and understanding of what's been done, the settings and customer service.

my question is does kreft know how to set these forks up for northeast rocks roots ect..

Give him a ring, he's been easy to get ahold of, for me anyway. He just moved from Colorado so I'm sure he knows about rocks...

Let them know where you had it done so they can install all of the seals that were pulled out and plug the hole drilled in the fork cap. It will save them a bit of setup time.

Yup taken care of!

Had another buddy with the orange twin to my bike send out to Kreft and says its night and day difference from his stock set up. Front stays up is plush but firm if that makes sence and he says the front sticks now no deflection and stable at higher speeds. Looking forward to trying it out!!!