TE/TC 4CS Issues

Mike I'm picking up a 250 diesel tomorrow at Bob's. Now I'm thinking WER.

Just saw a close up of Meo's 2015 bike-----looks like none of the Farioli Factory KTM enduro bikes have 4CS they all have factory cone valve forks.
For sales build your own Beta should clue in the KTM/Husky sales team. Me personally, if there were options, I would have had my bike delivered with Factory Cone valve forks and a Trax shock.

On another note just saw Ping's test of the 2016 450SXF Factory Edition---it does have 4CS forks on it. But me and MX suspension set ups have never gotten along.

OK, got a chance to ride my rebuilt 4CS today for a few hours of single track and a little MX. Wow, this is what I expected when I bought the bike. Sadly, $700 later the forks are amazing. I also had my shock rebuilt and re-valved and there's a very good improvement there as well. Logs, embedded rocks, whoops, roots, it soaked up everything like never before. Even pinned it in 3rd gear on the big hill climb so I could launch the bike at the top. It didn't bottom and felt like I landed in a huge snowdrift. Guess the Huck valves did their job. Amazingly, I never touched 1 clicker the whole time, and there's 4 now. I figured I'd need some small tweaks but once again Jeremy nailed it on the settings. I'm terrible at describing how suspensions work but I can tell you that it's better at everything now especially downhills. I was flying down steep hills that I would normally have issues steering on before. I would used get some significant chatter in the linkage on down hill braking and that's all gone now. Traction everywhere, I was really shocked how much better the bike handles now. Sheesh, I wonder why I waited. At least it's fully sorted now. Time for a new bike...Haha

Specs. 4CS forks

• I'm 225 Lbs before gear.
• 4.8nm springs
• 4CS asymmetrical system installed by MXTECH
• mid comp 14
• lo comp 6
• high comp 6
• rebound 14
• oil level 130 cc

Shock

• 6.2nm spring
• Re valved for woods
• lo speed 8
• hi speed 2
• static sag 35mm
• Race sag 105mm

That's great! I'm not sure I never got to ride my bike with stock suspension but just a standard revalve front and rear and I must have got lucky because it feels better then any of my revalved kyb stuff and easily as good as my zoke stuff. Possibly because my kyb stuff blew thru the first four inches just sitting on the bike. This seems to ride up in the stroke like it should and just glides across trail trash like a caddy. As soon as akeley opens up I'll get there. That will be the true test. I can bottom the suspension but you have to be pushing hard to do so.also when I ride with let it snow I will ride his dour stroke and see how it feels in comparison as I believe his suspension is stock. Most guys revalve so I don't feel like it is to big a deal. Never touched a clicker while in Utah and Colorado. Not Kdx soft but you can pound thru the whoops and I also sense little deflection or headshake...I like it!

Will be getting my kreft Huck valve with all the toppings back the week, I'm at 230lbs so will be good to see how they shake out!

I have all kinds of springs and zip Ty base valves for sale in classifieds!

Alfredo Gomez's Factory FE350, no 4CS for Alfredo.

"The forks are 48mm WP Cone Valve housed in Xtrig triple clamps and the rear shock is WP Traxx."

Have heard kreft and MX tech are as close to a cone valve set up as you can get without dropping the coin, according to some pro guys. We'll see??

I had the MxTech kit installed in my spare pair of 4cs forks and rode them over the weekend. They are very very good. I have a set of Kreft 4cs forks as well and the MXTech kitted ones are not much different. They both are far superior to the stock 4cs and are a good bit better than the re valved CC forks I have.

MX Tech and Kreft are partnered in their own set up/ parts developement, both their setups use each others parts. Hence they should be exactly the same

Yes but they go about it differently with their valveing

There seems to be a slight variance in the mid valves between mxtech and kreft. Both companies produce their own mid valves but mxtech makes the Huck valves and the base valves.

Thankfully someone took the time or we would be screwed. A properly sorted 4cs is said to be every bit as good as ohlins. Worth the effort imho.

The factory all ready cured the 4CS issues.....they put their works cone valve forks on all factory racing machines and all the top tier guys with some few exceptions use WP cone valve A kit forks.
To me as soon as I saw the powerparts catalog WP offering it just reinforced my thoughts, there was not a 4CS A-Kit set up-----there is a completely different configuration set up for getting your A kit forks. That told me immediately that there was no place for the 4CS configuration on race bikes, just good enough for all us dopes.
ex. A Kit Showas are Showas, just super upgraded Showas.
Hey on paper in some engineering office and for reduced manufacturing cost the 4CS (For C*&ts System) are spot on, with some distain to me they are born from the corporate office bean counters and probably "young" engineers with great new idea.
This 4CS half assed fork set up has been a big business opportunity for all the tuners, its a great aftermarket business booster for Kreft, MX Tech, Stillwell, ZipTy, Factory Connection etc etc

PS they could have just copied the SSS KYB forks that everyone seems to like in big varying conditions and a set of springs would have brought us all smiles. my 3 cents. PPS the idea is cool but the execution flat out suuucks.

Even after my ZipTy mod I may still buy a set of 300XC-W or XC forks from ebay eventually.
the above post was a vent.....

hahahaa

All I can say is I'm impressed so far! And this is how it should be!