TE/TC 4CS Issues

so Adam installs the green mud scraper covers on? I have a set but was not sure to install them , Wp paperwork says for wet muddy conditions.......we don't see much of that..... Nice pack up Chums, that's a real professional set up. Im sure the things will be exceptional as stated by many testers.

I installed the scrapers, leaky seals after 15hrs of normal non-muddy riding. Haven't had leaky seals since, not sure if its due to a bad original seal or the scrapers though.

So you had leaky seals with or without them? I have a set of SKF scrapers that came with my forks too but I haven't installed them. If its sloppy at Loretta's I'll pop them on tomorrow night. It says on the package to not run them unless it's sloppy.

The seals leaked then I got new seals and installed the scrapers and 40 hrs later no leaks nothing exploded by keeping them on lol!

Thanks man, I will install them after all plus they have that off color (green) factory trick look about them!!! bling ba bling.....

I put the green meanies on i cut off the hard nylon plastic oem ones,, the instructions read to keep them, slide them up and ziptie them onto the forks under the triple clamp.....that was too hokey, also installed new flexxbars red red for now

blah blah blah from Rob again--- aint no 4CS forks on Pela Renet's 2015 #1 plated FE/FC450...... close ups show works cartridge inserts
http://www.enduro21.com/index.php/component/k2/item/2648-first-look-–-pela-renet’s-husqvarna-fe-450

PS that bike is an enduro dream machine

really??? they swiss cheesed the kick stand......., I note OEM chain guide mount cover with TMD guide.

Here you go. At least you know they will work!
http://ktmtalk.com/pp_classifieds/showproduct.php?product=46960

that's a good price.....when really considering the Cone Valve cartridge set up.......

OK so I'm sitting here at work after 3 days of riding the mtdr event at loretta Lynn's this past weekend. My legs are burning, I can't stop smiling and the 4cs forks are officially amazing! I'm pissed I waited a full season to have them rebuilt. The hills of Tennessee where brutal on the bike with root steps 3 feet high, embedded rocks, hard pack and tons of chop. They soaked it all up and it felt like the bike was glued to the trail. Got some serious air on the uphill and downhill water brakes and no hard bottoming with the Huck valves. What a blast. Now to deal with how to make it through 5 days of work....

Glad I'm finding out about the 4CS issues while trying to decide between a new TE300 or a Sherco 300 SER. If I go with the local dealer and choose Husky it sounds like I need to budget in a fork fix. Sherco is sounding better all the time, but no dealers in the Northeast yet.

For what its worth the stock 4CS suspension on my 14 TE 300 was the worst if not the most dangerous suspension I could have ever imagined. After sending it to Kreft for the full meal deal I can say its the best I've ever had. I went with Kreft because they are as close to local as I can get. I'm sure others can make the 4CS suspension work very good as well. I would not consider a new bike with the 4CS suspension without budgeting for the suspension upgrade. Its sad that we can spend so much on a bike and it has such a defective suspension. I will probably go with a different brand in the future.

Sounds like most of you guys would be better off waiting for the day hover bikes are released.
Seriously I don't know how you've come up with so much terrible feedback on the 4cs.
I sold my Burg 300 which was bloody hard work to race at any pace & picked up a new fe350, I did a quick 25km ride just to see what I had & apart from blowing through the mid I thought it was a good start.
Then I sent the suspension off to my local guy who doesn't try to reinvent the wheel but instead uses a common sense approach & just fixes any problems in the stack or does a shim shuffle to suit rider ability.
So now with the correct springs & new shim stack it handles beautifully, the bike is set up for Enduro Racing on tight single trail with every type of terrain covered in each ride.
I'm 100% happy with my 4cs & feel my pace & front end confidence picking up each ride after being tormented by the Burg for so long.

Hey all this is still a very subjective area as far what is "wrong" or not about the 4CS system. I mean really are "you" a beginner, an expert a pro level rider/racer, where do ride the thing there are a million variables out there. For me the forks were terrible. I was bummed because I wanted that planted feel that Ive felt on my friends XC and XCF-W, etc Katos. Its a very personal feel thing what I like 90% of folks probably wont. I have ridden a few world class offroad pro's bikes, some were plush and amazing and one still sticks out in my mind he raced Kaw and TM and I have ridden both brands of his race bikes at various times (ISDE Gold medalist/Trophy Team Champions) he ran his suspension like an SX bike along with his engine tuning like full MX, impossible for me to comprehend. Another guy from the same country same resume' (+world enduro champion) his stuff was right up my alley, smooth, easy to manage........ so this subject is super personal. But the thread is good to share for references.

It's troublesome for someone like me contemplating a new Husky to hear so many folks complaining about how bad these 4CS forks are, but it doesn't totally put me off buying one. Truth is I've had to send the suspension out on every bike I've ever owned to get it to work right in the New England roots and rocks except for one, which was my 2011 GG. It seemed everyone hated the Sachs units that came on that bike, but it worked better for me right out of the box than the WP stuff on my previous bike (450EXC) that I spent mega bucks getting sorted out. It wasn't quite as plush, but it didn't deflect and seemed to worked really good everywhere. Just goes to further prove (as previously mentioned) what works for one person may not work for another.

If I go with the Husky I'll break it in and see how things go. From what I'm hearing from several folks the 4CS suspension went from worst ever to best ever after tuning, so at least there is hope and several shops out there that know exactly how to fix them. If I end up with the 4CS I'll definitely post up my impressions here.

OK checking in with new set of fork springs---I went from .48 to .46 I still have the 6.0 on my Trax shock and am still playing shock clickers....the .46 for what Im doing is spot on I clicked in 2 more comp clicks and opened the reb up more. this fork change is to my ZIpTy mod forks, everything working super well. only a few soft bottoms today- rode hard

I'm probably slower than you and have the same complaints and then some. My biggest complaint is the total lack of confidence in the front to go where I want it to go. Right now my 2015 350 XCF is a garage queen until I decide to sell it or spend the $800 -$1,000.00 it's going to take to fix KTM's not so good forks. I think KTM/Husky should offer us 4CS owners a 1K rebate .

Same here. I spent more money for a 14 xcf because of all the hype on these forms. Should have saved $1500-$2000 and got a left over without the fork issues. When I first ride the bike I thought man, chilly is right, these are going to be nice once resprung and broke-in. But they just kept getting worse. Went with zipty mod and am happy so far. Haven't got to ride to much with the weather but just bouncing on it after I got them back was a huge difference. Might have to dial in a little more compression, but seems really close.

Any tight woods riders happy with these forks, specifically on the 4 strokes, or are they set up poorly for that as well?