TE/TC 4CS Issues

Can you elaborate?

Some guys that I ride with have all of their suspension settings written down for different riding areas. They spend the start of each ride fine tuning their bikes.

I just ride mine, once I get it to handle ok. I stand most of the time while riding so I can use my body to make adjustments, which might make the suspension a bit less critical?

One day I'll be a talented enough rider to benefit from fine tuning. I can say that I am able to recognize a good suspension setup but that is where the fine tuning ends with me. I think rebound is easier to setup for me then compression. I also set the sag religiously.

I'm with you let it snow.... I guess it'd be like changing your tires every ride.... get a setting that's works and ride it.... but I guess since I don't ride 100% the same thing for a whole ride I'm better to leave it..

I generally have a base setting I ride most of the time, even with the variations of my "home" riding/racing area. My local stuff, is silty, muddy, roots, shale rocks, some round rollers in creek beds, uphill, down hill, off camber. If I go to PA or New England to ride a straight up rock run enduro, I'm adjusting my suspension and putting on a rear rock tire or trials tire. If I go to New Jersey to ride a fast sand whoops enduro, I'm going to stiffen my suspension up. I don't worry too much about running a sand tire though.

Anyway, back on topic... I only have about 5 hours on my '15 TE125 and the forks seem to be working pretty well. I've pounded them on hard frozen whoops on our little vintage MX track and against the rocks, roots, logs, ledges and uphill/downhill of our worst enduro trails, in the wettest nastiest conditions. I spoke to Drew Smith and he said that the lightweight/low power of the TE125, may help the 4CS forks to work better, than on heavier, more powerful models.

rode a mates stock 350 today, my forks are night and day better, even without rebound adjustment

'14 or '15?

Question:
Has anyone ever shipped a full suspension, forks and shock, in a double shot gun case? I'm curious on shipping costs. I'd be shipping from the Chicago area to ZipTy and trying to weigh the overall shipping costs. Or at least a ballpark figure. TIA

From past experience from KY to LA.... USPS was about $70 in a PC provided box

I'll have to look. Shipped mine from WV to zipty in a gun case. Had a junker that a guy shipped a couple guns to me in that was part of the deal. Cheap plastic one didn't fair so well in transport. They busted the corner and broke the latch on that side. Luckily a fork didn't slide out or get dinged.

I'm guessing a insurance policy is in order for say 2kish?

Do it like motosportzsays Mn to I'll forks and shock around $50.00 with $2000 insurance......if your bike is dangerous and not predictable at high speed factor in one trip to the emergency room or possibility of a halo around your head for six months .....if its under a hundo who cares..... I hope these 4cs forks are OK. My god seems like there are so many different opinions on these forks ....

from what ive seen from people talking about the forks is that most of the comments of them being bad is coming from guys that ride a lot of high speed stuff. how are these forks for guys that ride tight rocky stuff that is not 4th or 5th gear stuff

I'd like to know that as well. Also from what I here this chassis is not like the Italian bike and needs a steering dampner to perform well ....

I know some Pro Riders who don't run steering dampers on KTM/Husaberg/Husky bikes. I don't run one on either of mine. I was pinned across rutted corn fields and down trappy farm lanes the other day and the TE125 felt fine to me. The bike never shook its head or felt nervous.

14, same as mine.

high fork shaft speed not bike speed, square edge rocks/roots that make the forks retract fast as apposed to slow speed retraction from g outs and rolling bumps

I shipped my KX suspension to them from Eastern Iowa and it was $60. Wrap the gun case in cardboard so its " in a box" it'll save ya $10.

I rode 17 races this year from tight enduro to super fast wide open stuff. (FE350) my experience was the forks were worse in the tight stuff, because... They were unpredictable, when your bars are just clearing the trees I want to know were the front is going when I hit that log and that wasn't the case. Adjust the comp soft to take out the jolt and it was worse, just spongy everywhere. Adjust comp stiffer and its rough but hit something hard and I blew through the stiff right back into the spongy soft part of the stroke. I had a local spring and valve stiffer which brought back predictability but was a lumber wagon and it pushed bad in corners.
If your a trail rider of a slower pace you'll probably never notice these issues and will probably like the softer stock set up, but it can be made better if wanted. My 2cents

Oh and it took probably 10-12 hours before the forks really got bad for me. Felt softer and more unpredictable.