1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Austria - About 2014 & Newer
    TE = 2st Enduro & TC = 2st Cross

TE/TC 4CS Issues

Discussion in '2st' started by Lincolnlock, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    I put a good 10 hours on my bike this weekend (I need an hour meter). First day, it was 18F and ground was frozen hard. We rode hard, in all varieties of South Jersey sand... Big whoops, deep berms, ruts in hard black muck sand, jumping logs. Hard on the brakes. We're not putting along, Rich has us running near race pace, much of the time. I can't find fault with the forks yet, with 20 total hours on the bike. I haven't done any serious rock riding yet, so can't speak to that. I'm not sure they are as good as my '12 WP CC forks, but I'm not feeling like these forks are junk. Reviews have said that the TE125, has the best suspension of all the '15 Huskys. I'm a mid pack B rider, riding the Masters Class....
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  2. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    Dropped my suspension off this morning for a rework. Should see them in a couple of weeks. High and low speed compression along with rebound on the menu. Should be a change for the better. We'll see.
  3. fletchman45 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    park rapids
    ya. winter is all so long........................................ May be fine just don't want issues two weeks before the first race.....But you certainly have a point!
  4. Rubu Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    15' TE 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    14' KTM 250SX-F, Tunturi Pappa -72
    Hi! What setup do You run on Your TE250?

    I have 0.44/5.1 springs. 38mm/105mm

    Fork reb 17
    comp 17

    Shock lowspeed 17
    Hispeed 2,5
    reb 17

    My suspension does not feel as good I would hope to feel.

    What setup works for You?
  5. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    FE350S (2015) Update from our other 4CS crew member and again not to plant bad seeds in heads, for Norm, Fletch and others with 4CS.
    Just reporting second hand. Crew member Andy just put more than a few hundred miles on his 4CS FE350S on a Baja destination trip, it was an all encompassing trip meaning not just fast dirt roads, they did the obligatory beach runs, lots of single track etc.. He said it was some of the best single track he had ever ridden......and he's a NETRA, SETRA and ISDE vet. Andy check in, I know you have been watching from the sidelines!!!
    He was on the "smallest" bike CC wise.
    His honeymoon with the 4CS forks is over...he said they became harsh rather than loosen up and are now just deflecting off everything and he lost confidence in his front. That report goes right into the "not enough compression bleed to eat high speed comp hits causing fluid/hydro lock" that is the common word from the tuners. Again you all know mine are now basically open chamber off road/enduro forks, REB on top COMP on bottom from ZipTy Racing and for what and where I want my forks to best they are exemplary, but this week I will add 5cc more oil to both legs for softer bottoming resistance which will be 25cc up from where we started.
    I spoke with long time Race Tech pro technician Mike Crow (he has tuned many top tier race tech sponsored pro off road guys stuff)the other day and he told me he has been doing the same conversion in his 4CS mod work for off road guys, because of the lack of full range adjustability on these forks.

    As you all know there are other retain the 4CS alternatives from our local San Diego super nice guy Suspension 101(George has been tuning 4CS for local E cross Pro Noah K) to Slavens, Stillwell, Kreft etc.

    PS Also one local 10 time ISDE gold medal guy AMA Hall of Fame rider has the ZipTy reconfigure mod on his FE350 and likes it.
  6. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    As I said in Let It Snow's thread... I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop, with these forks. Oil migration out of the closed chambers, seem to be an issue. 150 miles and good so far.
  7. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    PS I like putting back ground ( "name drop") on who these guys are so you all know the skill level they are riding at. And again I stress only for info not for bad seeds- disclaimer-do your own assessment.
  8. TROFFER88 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Camas Wa
    These forks need air bleeds installed , they seem to build more pressure than other forks and it contributes to harshness, IMO
  9. Lincolnlock Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Vernon, WA
    It looks like I'll be sending my suspension off again. The forks start out the day fairly plush and progressively get stiffer until you can barley push them down at all. Even on huge hits I'm still not able to use 2/3 of the fork travel by the end of the day of riding. The problem is even more evident in really technical terrain where you really need the plushness of the fork to maintain control across roots and rocks. The pressure build up isn't in the upper chamber where you can bleed it off either. After the bike sits on the stand over night the pressure bleeds off and the suspension is good to ride for a little bit. I'm definitely not making it to the King of Motos race this weekend like I had planned to. I'll be sure to give you guys an honest report of what I think of the new revalve when I get it back. Here is a video from last Monday's trip to Canada to keep you entertained. It's a great place to train for hard enduro.
  10. lankydoug Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    TM 300en
    That looks like the funnest place ever to ride.
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  11. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Latest mag has a 450 MX shootout. KTM and husky are dead last. They hated the forks, said they were harsh and deflected and did not like the rear much either. Most expensive by a good margin and dead last in the test. Not good.
  12. KXcam22 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Kamloops, BC, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 SM630, 2017 300XC
    Other Motorcycles:
    08FZR6;07CRF450;98CBR900RR;02KTM200
    Nice vid of Mcnutt. What I like about those wooden bridges is riding over them when there is 6" of whitewater overtop and the bridge is invisible. Cam.
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  13. racemx904 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    owenton, ky
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 Beta 350RR & 1986 430XC
    Other Motorcycles:
    1975 Rokon and 2004 Kawasaki KX65
    Cant believe anybody actually reads rags shootouts
  14. HuskyMax Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    WV
    That looks awesome. What rear tire you runnin. Looks like it's hooking up good.
  15. vntgmx Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NJ
    Nothing for nothing but the mags also said years ago that the TE449 that you so love and rave about on here was a pile...Just saying :o
  16. bikesparky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Townsville Oztrailia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    Superduke 1290
    Here in Oz they are always on top. Probably due to the fact that they sponsor a lot of stuff, heaps of advertising and at least one or two demo bikes per magazine.... Just saying!
  17. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many

    My dad has it sent to me as a gift so I read it, usually on the toilet just incase. :D And although I don't put much stake in what they say when I read forums like this then read they hated the forks it shows there is an issue to some.
  18. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    And again, for the record, I liked the short ride I did on the new FE350 with those forks and it was stock. Bike felt great. Am not bashing just reporting. The TC250 I rode was harsh but it is a MX bike and new so expected to some degree. Loved the motor in that one, was a rocket on top.
  19. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Mine is a TE511 and an australian mag put it neck and neck with the Beta 450 :D
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  20. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    I just think it's funny that husky gets bought by one of the top companies and we still come in last lol. Not going to lie, makes me think it's a damn good bike now :)
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