TE/TC Best way to convert TE125 to a 200

damnit if 150s where legal where you think this kid would finish

i would strongly consider 150 kit on my 125.. but another alternative is to get better with clutch use

i do agree that it's more difficult to ride fast.. I am faster on my beta 300 but 125 is sooo much fun and just not tiring to ride...
now if only those forks would be as good as my KYB....

Isnt the main reason to not get a 200 is that they are based on a 250 frame ?


So engine swap makes some sense - or get an older 200 (pre 08? ) which had 125 frame and put an elec start kit on it .

So you get the 125 feel with bigger motor and its easier - just old - and PDS .

I am sure Norm has said that he doesn't like the feel of the 200 before and I kind of agree. ( I imagine they were 08- '11 vintage ?)

Unless newer models are much different ie lighter


I also didn't really like the power delivery of the 200 - preferred the 250 but that may also have changed .

I HATE the smaller 125-200 chassis.... I like te full size chassis.... old 125 turns funny in tight stuff... and hate PDS.... I never got it right ever.... I had Bones from PC with our team out with us in Vegas and I finally gave up and just dealt with it....

Last 200 I rode, was an '05 and I didn't like it much. Bulky and pipey. The 200 has changed a bunch over the years though. I haven't ridden a new 200 yet, but from have I read, the power delivery has changed.... less light switch like. '16 125EXC frame part number, is the same as the '16 200EXC (notation shows this frame dates from 2014). The US 200XC/W part number is different from EXC, but I assume that is because US model isn't street legal and lacks steering head lock. 250/300 frame number is completely different.

Adding Estart is a pricey proposition, on top of a 200 conversion. Parts alone, are $1000 plus.... You need correct stator, ignition cover, all starter parts, complete wiring harrness and battery. Engine needs complete crank, piston, cylinder, head, PV assembly, PV timer, CDI, gasket, O rings and other hardware. These parts used, aren't that easy to find. Buying a complete bike and swapping engines starts to look cheap and easy by comparison.

I have had 3 of them and love them.... but I dont want to get stuck needing parts.... that may be a non issue nw but soon it will be.... If SWM or somebody makes that bike I would be first in line.....

Plus I'm hoping to earn some contingency with Husky.... at least pay for my parts....

Norm you now have the direct line to Brad the engineer that has built up 2 late model OEM quality 200XC bikes....aint cheap but may be just the ticket, if it makes you happy get on with it, maybe we can get some media attention and your local dealer can kit them up or at leat have part list for self kitting.

Kelly - I read somewhere the older 200s used the 125 frame - and that changed at some point but I am not sure exactly - the 200 frame feels big compared to my wr125 and similar to a 250 exc to me
not more spacious in the cockpit but feels like a bigger bike than the WR 125

I believe they just changed for 16'.... Husky is much taller and feels bigger to me but skinner....

2008 and up are full size frames

I think my post pretty much says it all.... same part numbers.

Is that official Norm ?

Ive heard it said many time s the frame size went up but here is a video on KTM range that a local guy Barry did that also mentions this

I guess there is a lot of misinformation and rumour spreading on the net

If this is the case - Id recommend taking a 200 for a decent ride or buy a ktm200 to see if you like the motor and then do the swap .



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sklSQlLFSsY

I looked up the part numbers on KTM parts site.... I don't think part numbers lie!
125EXC and 200EXC EU and Australia models all have same frame part number. 200XC-W US has a different frame part number, but not even similar to 250/300 frame part number.

I can tell you one thing... The 125 and 250 frames are definitely different when you go to put rad guards on and adjust the steering stops. 125 is shorter from the steering stem, back to where rads mount. At some point the overall size of the 125/200 frame, may have gotten bigger and more similar to 250/300 frame, but they are not the same frames.

the mount are going to be different

Brad's 200cc converts are 150XC (linkage bikes) based, so built up from that chassis.

I rode a new box stock '16 200XC-W today. I was impressed with the motor for sure and I now want one. It seemed almost as powerful, as my '12 Husaberg TE250. The rest of the bike.... I'm not so sure. I guess the key words are... box stock. My box stock '15 TE125 felt much better and is now way better with suspension done. I would have to do some dialing in on the XC-W to get it working right, as it felt really nervous. What surprised me the most, was that the OC forks felt terrible. I'm 180 naked, so I guess they were settling too far into the stroke, with the stock springs.

I could do a 200 build on my TE125, but I really want the button. At 61 life is too short, so I'm buying a '16 200XC-W and swapping engines! TE200 with the link!

When the '17 TE's come out, we'll see what that brings for small bores, but until the.... old tech rules!

Been there done that on the PDS wont go that route again....

Prolly just going to do the 125 and just have another bike that I can switch for different races or rides