1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

CR 500 jetting issue

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Bengt Husky, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    They dont need to be more knowledgeable about what specifications I should use, they need to be able to deliver the machine work to the specifications I give them.
    justintendo and oldbikedude like this.
  2. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    i did a little kdx 200 years ago, an 87 a/c model. put a new slug in it, gutted the pipe and put an allow muffler on it. ran sharp but on its second ride i took it to the beach:banghead: Idiot!!. got about 300 metres down the beach and heard the noises, felt the slight drag so i locked the back wheel on full throttle, too scared to roll it back through the needle jet. let it cool for a bit and it fired up and was fine after that. i dropped the needle clip and that helped. back home i went up a couple on the MJ and that sorted it. Stripped it down at a later date and there was minimal damage c/w what i thought had happened.. lucky escape!
  3. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    Piston clearance depends on the piston material so the clearance from the motorcycle manufacturer is only correct if you are using the OEM piston. Any other piston should use the piston manufacturers specs at least as a starting point. The person in the link you posted was most likely working on a Japanese motorcycle which all come with cast pistons and he was using a Wiseco piston. OEM Japanese pistons are cast, which dont expand as much as the forged Wiseco so the Wiseco is going to require more clearance.
  4. Bengt Husky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
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    Gutted to say, she seized up(milk crate) yet again in qualifying at Farleigh. The good news the spare (silver bike in the picture) rode like a dream and got me to 15th overall from the second row of the grid. So its' back to the drawing board.
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  5. Picklito Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    430, 430, 430, ,400, 175
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM250xc, KTM500mx, KTM440exc
    Sorry to hear that. What jetting are you running on the milk crate?
  6. Bengt Husky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    A 360 Main jet (i'm told is too small ?)
    35 Pilot jet.
    7F7 Needle
    She seized good an proper...


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  7. Picklito Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    430, 430, 430, ,400, 175
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM250xc, KTM500mx, KTM440exc
    Ouch. Try this:
    410
    7F7
    AA5
    3.0
    40
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  8. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    was that 360 the most main it would handle?
  9. Bengt Husky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK


    I did try a 380 with a 2.0 slide and it ran horribly. When I've re-built the motor, I've got a mate with a dyno and he's going to put it on there and see whats going on....Hopefully..:eek:
  10. Picklito Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    430, 430, 430, ,400, 175
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM250xc, KTM500mx, KTM440exc
    It's not gonna work with a 2.0 slide.
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  11. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    you didnt try changing them both at the same time right? 370 would be the next step, and that change alone.
  12. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    Is it only seized on the intake side or all four corners?
  13. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    just a outside point...i had a mate who had several seizures on a 250 and it was the middle head bolts being too long by a poofteenth and bottoming out in the cyl before tightening the head down sufficiently... took some pistons to sort that out.
  14. Picklito Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    430, 430, 430, ,400, 175
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM250xc, KTM500mx, KTM440exc
    There was a Husky service bulletin about those head bolts being too long. It's something I check on every motor I build. One would think the issue had been solved by the time the 500 came out, but I'd rather check than bet.
  15. Picklito Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    430, 430, 430, ,400, 175
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM250xc, KTM500mx, KTM440exc

    I forgot about this post from husqyhamm. Notice the main jet size.
  16. Bengt Husky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK


    Nope...she seized worst on the exhaust side IMG_6155.JPG
  17. Kartwheel68 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Newnan, Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 125XC, 250XC, 430XC, 430WR, 250CR
    Other Motorcycles:
    83 175WR , 76 250WR, 74 250 Mag
    Four corner seizures are usually (but not always) caused by the piston expanding too fast for the cylinder during warm up. Its interesting that it does not appear to be seized above the ring. Other than running it too hard before it is thoroughly warm, which I do not think an experienced rider like yourself would do, I really dont have any ideas.
  18. husqyhamm Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Africa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Quite a few 83-86 500 2Ts and 4Ts
    Other Motorcycles:
    84 R80 GS Dakar; Victory 106.
    That hurts.
    Looking at piston ring in frontal part of seizure, you can see it did not seat properly with cylinder causing blowby and a hotspot beneath it.
    Cylinder likely out of round.
  19. silverstreakNZ Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Christchurch nz
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82cr500,76gp360,90wr250,81 420AXC
    Other Motorcycles:
    74 tm400 , 02 gasgas ec 300
    Is that the black line you can see on the face of the ring you are talking about ?
  20. husqyhamm Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Africa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Quite a few 83-86 500 2Ts and 4Ts
    Other Motorcycles:
    84 R80 GS Dakar; Victory 106.
    Yes, rest of what one can see of ring is silver, indicating full surface contact and seating.