Dead Spot About 3000 RPM Under Light Load

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Ignaciob, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. Leo Fisher Cafe Husky - Contributing Member

    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati, Honda and Norton
    After taking the time to let the bike warm up to temperature before getting on it - the MOSS readjustment appears to have helped. At least the bike isn't wanting to die. Time will tell. Just thinking if the warranty would still be in force with all the little mods, spoofers, temp readjustment items etc?
  2. MadDogTR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes, many.
    "Just thinking if the warranty would still be in force with all the little mods, spoofers, temp readjustment items etc?"

    The only time a new vehicle warranty can be voided is if an aftermarket part has been installed and it can be proven that it is responsible for a warranty claim. However, a vehicle manufacturer or dealership cannot void a warranty simply because an an aftermarket equipment has been installed on a vehicle.

    In other words, if your frame cracks, it can't be blamed on your spoofer and the warranty must be honored. If your engine blows up, the dealer or manufacturer would have to PROVE that it was the fault of the spoofer in order to deny the claim.

    See: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
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  3. NorthnTerraTory Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Darwin,Northern Territory,The Top End of Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Well I don't have to disconnect the Lambda sensor now. My dog did it for me!

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    Not a happy camper!
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  4. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Holy crap! Bad dog! Looks like Fido is a little jealous of his master's toys. Time to give Seat Concepts a call. Sorry about your luck.
  5. NorthnTerraTory Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Darwin,Northern Territory,The Top End of Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Yeah, been looking at a higher seat. Do they do a complete seat or just the inner. Would I have to get it covered somewhere else?
  6. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    I believe you can send them your entire seat and they'll do the entire job for something like $20 extra. I forget the exact cost. Or you can just order the foam and take care of it yourself. HighFive did a great write up on his seat replacement. I think it may be over on the ADV site though. Check it out.
  7. NorthnTerraTory Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Darwin,Northern Territory,The Top End of Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Yeah, I've seen that, but he used the original material and as you can see, mines been butchered.
  8. Wolftrax Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Blue Ridge Mountains Georgia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR 650, Yamaha XT1200Z
    SC sends you new foam and the cover. Installation is a snap if you have a power stapler.
  9. NorthnTerraTory Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Darwin,Northern Territory,The Top End of Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Thanks mate, I just had a look at their website. I think f or the cost of sending them my seat from oz, I could buy a stapler anyway. I will order one tonight I think.
  10. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    Wowsa, sorry to see that. Next time take Fluffy with :excuseme: Heal fast


    PS. Don't think that is covered under warranty.
  11. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE

    You can probably find an upholsterer who already has the equipment who could do the job for you for less than the cost of a stapler you might not have any other use for.
  12. Scutler Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TW200 Sold, 2009 SuzukiGS500F Sold
    Just to preface this; I have experienced this "dead spot" and sputtering off idle. I have no spoofers or have had the MOSS update. I did delete the smog cannister.

    Well, big smile on my face this morning. I ran the Terra's battery dead the other day when I left the key in the on position (yeah I'm an idiot lol). It took two days to charge the battery completely. This morning I connected the now charged battery and let the bike run for about 20 minutes (did not touch the throttle). On the way to work today I noticed a big improvement. No "dead spot" or off-idle sputtering on my 15 minute commute. The temperature this morning was about 32 degrees F. :)

    If the bike changes its characteristics I'll update you guys.
  13. maecki Husqvarna

    Location:
    Karlsruhe, Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Sounds like a spark of hope for me.
    I have the same problem with my Terra from the moment temperatures here in Germany have dropped to autumnal 50-60 degree F.

    Doesn't seam to like starting as before in summer and dies often when opening the throttle after idling. I find this quite dangerous since it happened more than once after pulling out to the main road. No fun being left standing whithin heavy traffic.

    So I will try giving her a real warm up as you did, perhaps it gives me a hint where to further search for this fault. The last two weeks I mostly used her for commutimg, didn't get her warm since its only about 15 KM...

    Maecki
  14. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE

    Maecki,

    The stalling issue you describe can be fixed by installing one of the available booster plugs which are available commercially or can be made yourself if you have the time and patience. Search through the forum looking for threads discussing these plugs and you will find the solution you seek. eg http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/booster-plug.29060/
  15. maecki Husqvarna

    Location:
    Karlsruhe, Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Thanks nev...,

    But I already knew about these.
    Made an appointement with my dealer for next week, I' ll see what he has to say about the issue.
    If he is as clueless as I fear, I will probably look for a bp...

    Maecki
  16. Scutler Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TW200 Sold, 2009 SuzukiGS500F Sold
    It has been a week since my last post here. The bike is running better and I have not had the "dead spot" appear since. My battery was depleted which gave me the opportunity to reset my ECU. I would recommend to anyone with a "dead spot" or stalling issues who do not have a spoofer to give this a try atleast. If the "dead spot" shows up again I'll just reset the ECU by unhooking the battery overnight and letting it run for atleast 10 minutes without touching the throttle after hooking it up to the battery again.

    I thought I'd share my results. Who knows it may just be a fluke :thinking:
  17. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I had a similar experience. When it started running bad I unhooked the battery for about 2 minutes then reconnected. It ran great for about a week or two then started doing the old stuff again. I wasn't able to duplicate it a second time but I only unhooked it briefly. This evening I disconnected and will let it sit for overnight at least. I'll see if this makes a difference. Thanks Scutler for your input.
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  18. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    OK, that officially didn't work for me. I let it sit overnight disconnected then tried it again. Still running bad at 3k or so. For what it's worth, my bike was Mossed on delivery and I installed a Wuka about 4 months ago.
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  19. Scutler Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TW200 Sold, 2009 SuzukiGS500F Sold
    Seems like spoofers are the solution for now. Thanks for sharing.
  20. PaulC F class

    Location:
    Bayside Brisbane, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2 2018 YZ 450F, 2019 CRF1000AT
    Thanks for sharing this information on the picoauto website
    The article goes on to suggest possible causes for the lambda to get sluggish and also fail. For example using the wrong silicones!! or high mileage engines that burn oil
    I don't think spoofing will accelerate/cause this?? may be. Ethanol?
    A .3-.7 volt range makes sense
    Very interesting
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