Dead Spot About 3000 RPM Under Light Load

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Ignaciob, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. Ogre_fl Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cook Bayou, FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger 1050
    Did you let it idle for 10 mins?
    Isn't that part of the reset process too.
  2. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I must admit I only let it idle for about 3 minutes. OK, I'll try it again.
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  3. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    Well, I tried the 10 minute idle after a battery disconnect but it didn't change anything. But I tried something else too. I unplugged the Wuka BP for a try without it. For some reason I couldn't seem to unplug the part that connects to the air box though so I just left that part connected. Then I went for a test ride and it seemed to run pretty well. The temp indicator on the dash showed no reading at all, and there was a yellow engine light that came on and stayed on. Although I only rode about 5 or 6 miles all seemed to be good. Then I came home and reconnected the Wuka and took it for another short ride. It ran a little worse than when it was disconnected but not as bad as before. I wish I could have taken longer test rides but it was pretty cool out and I wasn't dressed for it. I am making no conclusions from this little test because I need to do a lot more riding first - just throwing it out there for consideration. I'll try some more tomorrow and we'll see what happens.
  4. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    Well, that experiment is officially a flop. With the temp sensor disconnected I think there is a little less stumble around 3k but it's still far from perfect. The dash shows no temperature and the yellow engine light comes on which I'm not real comfortable with. The motor also seems a bit more inclined to to die when engaging the clutch at a stop but that cam be controlled with more throttle. Still not a trade off I'm willing to settle with. I'd be interested in others trying this and see what they think. I really don't think I should have to spend the extra money for a Power Commander to smooth out this otherwise excellent motor.
  5. NorthnTerraTory Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Darwin,Northern Territory,The Top End of Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    I've tried everything and still can't get rid of it. Mossed (so they told me) Wuka, reconnecting OEM sensor and idling for three minutes then reconnecting Wuka, disconnecting battery, etc,etc. we just must be the unlucky ones Spider. Drives me friggen mad!
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  6. Thumpa Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    san francisco bay area, california usa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    CCM Dakar, G650X
    Don't know how many miles you've got on your bike, wether it's been mossed or not. But for what it's worth my totally stock bike has improved dramatically since a) valve adjustment, which was way off - b) followed by a moss job. The 3500 rpm hesitation went away following valve adjustment. The stumble stall all but went away since the moss. Not saying it won't die, it just hasn't as the bike's more responsive to micro throttle adjustment with way less hesitation. Anyhow, for what it's worth, a road you may have al;ready travelled.
  7. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    Mine was mossed on delivery and it now has 8k miles. Haven't done the valve adjustment due to the expense and I'm surprised that your's was way off. Did a dealer do the job? What did they charge? Were they loose or tight? I'm thinking about pulling the BP and having it mossed again while it's still under warrantee, then proceeding from there. Just a thought.
  8. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Wow that's quite disappointing. I had the stumbles, coughs, and hiccups that almost killed me a couple times pulling out into traffic or turning left at an intersection. It got so bad that I took the bike back to the dealer and said I'm scared to ride it on the road. They mossed it for the second time and the majority of the issues went away but I still wasn't happy. I installed the Wuka and all has been well ever since. I will say that every now and then I get a bit of a dead spot between 3 and 4k on the road but nothing that ever causes an issue. It runs like a dream off road but I keep it wound up quite a bit more off road than on. I wish you luck. By the way, out of curiosity, where did you mount your temp sensor with the Wuka?
  9. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE

    Not getting the valves checked as per the schedule only makes sense if there is no reason to think they need to be checked.
  10. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I mounted the sensor on the lower left corner of the radiator, exposed to free air. It pretty accurately indicates a 20 degree drop in temp so i think it's OK there. I'll be calling my dealer in the morning to see when I can get it mossed.
  11. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I took the bike back to the dealer with the BP removed and they mossed it again. (1st time since purchase) The results are encouraging as the 3k sputter seems to be gone. The temps are in the 40s today and I took it out for about an hour ride to try to get it as warmed up as possible. The idle is a bit erratic though and tends to want to die when leaving a stop. Still, it's an improvement. They weren't able to tell me if any actual adjustments were made. The moss tool only verifies at the end, "functioning at factor specs" or some such thing. For now I think I'll leave things alone and see how it runs the next few miles, although it's getting a little chilly for riding. I will likely end up installing the BP again though at some point. I hope my experience is helpful to someone. I'll keep you all posted with any future changes.
  12. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    Any chance on you filling a vague description of your location? State? Country?
    http://www.cafehusky.com/account/personal-details

    Who did the valve adjustment?
  13. Thumpa Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    san francisco bay area, california usa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    CCM Dakar, G650X
    That would be Mike Neld at Marin Moto Works a really good man. Mainly works on BMW, KTM, Aprilia.
    Moss job, i finaly wound up at the Beemer dealership In Modesto. There's still a little hesitation here and there. But between these two changes, my bikes night and day, way better.
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  14. maecki Husqvarna

    Location:
    Karlsruhe, Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Just a short update from my side: No update yet :-(

    My Terra sits at my dealer's for two weeks now. Has been mossed and dealer made a service request to Husqvarna.
    Husqvarna however seems not to be very responsive ( perhaps because the dealer quits the husky sealership in 2014, he is a bmw guy)...

    Mäcki
  15. maecki Husqvarna

    Location:
    Karlsruhe, Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Hi, me again.

    After three long weeks I picked up my Terra yesterday.
    After the MOSSing she runs fine, the dealer also made shure that the newest software is installed. No further hints from Husqvarnas side concerning this issue.

    But one tip from the mechanic: He observed that the Terra did refuse to run smoothly when started during the power-on-selftest, even after the MOSS reset. For him, it was reproducible so we chatted a while if this can be a software-bug using wrong values when not initialised properly. I'm not convinced yet but will pay attention to let the selftest finish (let the revs needle redrop to zero) before pressing the starter.

    Maecki
  16. TheBeer Hunter Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Mate , give it up . . This bike loves higher rpms. Mine clatters below 3000 , my klr does the same at 2500. Each bike to its own. Klr can't rev as high, nor make this type of power.
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  17. johnsweet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Desert, Maine 04660 USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 790R RickmanZ BulsSherpaTs350
    my terra is still 100% stock, sure i have stalled it but if i'm in the next gear down and I keep the revs up it goes. i purchased the booster plug but with the cool air here in maine and all this conjecture i have been reluctant to install it. my dealer is also 400 mile away one way so if i bugger it up and need a moss or second opinion i'd be out of luck, and that means not riding this beast. I must agree it likes higher revs
  18. maecki Husqvarna

    Location:
    Karlsruhe, Germany
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    I don't refuse higher rpms per se, but stuttering and stalling on crossings is dangerous and keeping rpm high waiting for the lights to go green is kind of immature for me... :-)

    Once driving, I have no problem keeping it above 3000...

    Maecki
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  19. johnsweet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Desert, Maine 04660 USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 790R RickmanZ BulsSherpaTs350
    no problem with the idle, it's just when i dump the clutch that i have had it stall, if i'm heading into traffic i will make sure to have my revs up anyway. spiderman maybe your bike was flawed, hope they can fix it for you
  20. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I removed the BP Johnsweet and had the bike mossed again a couple weeks ago. So far it is running just fine even without the BP so for the time being I'm a happy rider. I expect it to go bad again though and I will hook up the BP again at that time. At least that's my plan at this point.