Diagnostics using an Android Phone + Bluetooth

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Mark_H, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
  2. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
    IMPORTANT !!

    Update on my first real use of the App and adapter on the bike.
    I can so far do the following:-

    Read/Reset error codes on ECU, Dash and ABS unit.
    Perform Control functions of various electronic Ecu controlled items such as Fuel Pump, Fan, Injectors, Stepper Motor etc.
    Record Live data on all input and output parameters of the Ecu both when stationary and whilst on the road.

    At the moment I have not been able to work out how to do the Fuelling adaptation, TPS and Idle actuator resets.

    I have emailed the support at the software developers to find out how if possible to do it.

    Will keep you all posted.
    Matt Crawley and mysery1 like this.
  3. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750

    These are the MOST important functions....looking forward to hearing how you go. My OBD Link should be here Monday:) .
  4. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
    Pissed off is how i would describe it......

    Email back from developer says these functions are not yet available !! So until he makes it available I am back to fault diagnosis and basic resets only.
    Strange that on a BMW bike you can do everything, but not yet on a Husqvarna BMS-E set up.
  5. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Thats on the nose!, his web does not suggest that....poor form in my book. Did you pay him...? Has he given a time frame for completion?
  6. CarstenB Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar
  7. WayneC Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar
    The developer site indicates it does even less for the BMSE on the 650 GS/X models, R13 is the model designation for the GS

    Engine control unit BMSE R13
    ID
    Read error codes
    Delete error codes

    They dont list Service Functions for any of the BMSE equipped models, Service Functions are the device test routines
  8. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
    Further info from the developer when I asked if and when it would be available...

    We are constantly updating the software.

    My mistake was when I checked the functionality on the website prior to buying, I read 'Actuators Control' and assumed it to mean I could at least do the TPS and Idle Actuator, but it does not. It means I can control Fan, Fuel Pump, Injectors etc.

    Still, being able to diagnose faults if i am out on a longer ride without my Laptop is a positive. At least I can get to fix things if needed.
  9. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Actuators is important but "adaptions" is vital and this is where Motoscan is missleading us for now and hope in the short term they get included see below.


    https://www.motoscan.de/motorsteuerung-kwp/
    Engine control unit BMS-E
    ID
    Read error codes
    Delete error codes
    Real-time data
    Actuators control

    https://www.motoscan.de/ (the info below has not displayed well, best you click the link)

    FREE
    Lite
    free

    • ID
      Yes
    • Read error codes
      1**
    • Delete error codes
      No
    • Show parameters
      2 **
    • Actuators act
      2 **
    • adaptations
      No
    • Service intervals
      Show only***
    • Service functions
      No
    • Coding ECUs
      Show only***
    ENTHUSIAST
    basic
    14,99 EUR *

    • ID
      Yes
    • Read error codes
      Yes
    • Delete error codes
      Yes
    • Show real-time data
      Yes
    • Actuators act
      2 **
    • adaptations
      No
    • Service intervals
      Show only***
    • Service functions
      No
    • Coding ECUs
      Show only***
    SCREWDRIVERS
    professional
    29,99 EUR *

    • ID
      Yes
    • Read error codes
      Yes
    • Delete error codes
      Yes
    • Show real-time data
      Yes
    • Actuators act
      Yes
    • adaptations
      Yes
    • Service intervals
      Yes
    • Service functions
      No
    • Coding ECUs
      Show only***
    PREMIUM
    Ultimate
    49,99 EUR *

    • ID
      Yes
    • Read error codes
      Yes
    • Delete error codes
      Yes
    • Show real-time data
      Yes
    • Actuators act
      Yes
    • adaptations
      Yes
    • Service intervals
      Yes
    • Service functions
      Yes
    • Coding ECUs
      Yes

  10. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    So I got by OBDLink LX and plugged it into Motoscan "lite" and here are some screen shots and yes you can do f*rk all, but it did identify my bike which was good.

    Attached Files:

  11. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    I asked Motoscan when adaption reset and idle actuator calibration will be available and got quick reply:

    Yes, it will be added, but at the moment I can not say when.

    Best Regards

    --
    Dipl.-Ing. Wladimir Gurskij
    WGSoft.de
    Automotive Diagnostic Software
    Email: wladi@wgsoft.de
    Homepage: http://www.wgsoft.de, https://www.obd-2.de, https://www.motoscan.de
    Tel.: 05223/491234

    So, good to get a quick reply but who knows when it will be available..?? I'm going to point out to Motoscan their web is miss leading as it stands and they should amend or cough up..:).
    Mark_H likes this.
  12. wferrari Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    V-Strom
    This is really, really interesting. Kudos to Mark_H for taking the plunge and the others following on his trail. I'll probably wait until the Ultimate version becomes veritable. Before that, can anyone confirm that the motoscan can show the AFR from the lambda in real time?
  13. Martinehijo Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mexico
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada 2013

    Mark, how come you mention the ICOM D cable since the adaptor is Bluetooth, what is the cable for?
  14. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1


    Im pretty sure the bike does not have obd2 so you need the icom d cable to go from the bike to the obd2 scanner
  15. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
    Correct, the bike does not have a standard OBD2 connector, it has a BMW ICOM D instead, although the protocols are the same.
    Cable is indeed needed to go from round Female Icom D to square(ish) female OBD2 connector.
  16. Martinehijo Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mexico
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada 2013
    Hey Mark, thanks for your help, hope soon I can get the hole rig to do the motoscan on my Strada.
    Cheers
  17. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    dont get excited, I got the gear got it connected but it does nothing, pissed me off. Has there been any change to this anyone...?
  18. Martinehijo Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mexico
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Strada 2013
    Kiwiape, are you still getting no response from the OBD2?
  19. kiwiape Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia DD750
    Ok when I last tried (above) I could link with bike ok, but the software is not complete and you cant do anything. I emailed the dev. and he was f'n useless...so I tossed it into the corner in disgust and have not gone back...has something changed...? I'll try mine again when I get a chance.
  20. danketchpel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Camarillo, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Beta
    Mark
    Mark, excellent work!

    I do see quite a few references to doing this in some of the Amazon reviews for the BMW ICOM D cables using Motoscan.

    I was looking at this cable that had good reviews on Amazon. It's a short one like WGSoft offers.

    Question, can you reset the service minder?

    It's all worth if if you can do the TPS and Idle actuator resets and still pretty valuable to do the service minder reset plus read/clear error codes.