I know this is a bit off subject but I ran the MSD rev limiter and launch control on my 70' Challenger drag car with a 572" Indy Maxx Aluminum hemi. I had to shave over 4 tenths off of the car in the first 60 ft. I dropped the 60 ft times from about 1.18 to about 1.60 to keep it from breaking out and running under 8.90 e.t. index in the Super Comp class. It was so boring to even drive the car after installing the required electronics package to do this. That I quit running the car at all in the catagory and started running it in the fast brackets. It will run in the 8.50s or quicker but it is much harder on parts. Much more expensive as well to maintain. Pretty much lost any interest after stepping up to all the electronics. They had to go. I spent $75,000 to get the car to go into the 8s and I have to spend another $2500 to slow it down. Ridiculous. The scary part was the fact you had to drive the car out of the hole on a launch with your foot buried against the floor on the pedal stop under the gas pedal and the cars throttle stop is activated during launch. It leaves the line hard as you release the transbrake button to get a good reaction time as it breaks the light beams and then it noses over on the throttle stop and it will some what unload the chassis for about 2.5 seconds. It then opens back up again and you have to drive it out with out lifting or you will possibly crash if you do. The computer is controlling everything including shifting. You are just along for the ride. Its hairy trust me. Like the introduction of all modern electronics in any motorsport. My experience with running the throttle stop,launch control and delay box as well was something you basically had to do too be competetive. Every other car and dragster was running the same set up. They probably had there set up dialed in a bit better too. I got tired of being clipped all the time by S/C dragsters going 20mph faster in the last 100 ft. as well. This was simply because all the participants were infact sandbagging in a way with all the electronics. The electronics made the cars and dragsters more consistant but some much more boring to drive. I really missed the balls out performance of the cars real potential. So I have officially quit drag racing and the car is being sold. Thats why I had to build my 66'Plymouth Belvedere so I could do what ever I wanted with it and it's street legal as well. Expensive, yes but much more enjoyable.
I like both FI and Carbs. I do have to say that I have yet to ride a FI bike that was as smooth off idle as a well tuned carb.
Yep, no system is as quick as the human brain. If you have the skills, you don't need these systems They are out there though.
It's been proven at the highest levels of motorsports that properly done electronic packages make the riders faster. This is the case even at the level of something like MotoGP or F1; I'm pretty sure that Hayden, Rossi, and Vettel have the skills.
Yeah, fair call I guess, but given the chance of a level playing fields, they'd prefer to do it themselves.
I guess I didn't have the skills then. Guess I'm too old school. I enjoy building things and riding to my potential instead of the constraints of not having full and total control. Thats why I've gone back to dirt bikes in the first place. ray_ray's right it's like driving or riding a video game. I don't do any of those video games either. I've tried them and enjoyed a few of them myself but not something I even have hooked up anymore. They got the boot also and sit on the shelf.
I meant no disrespect by my comment. My limited skills see me lying on the ground from time to time too, but I don't want my bike to help me, I want to improve myself.
It's all good, none taken. I totally agree with you about wanting to improve myself and I think alot of that can come with proper suspension set up. I've gone to a 5810 "Trax" shock and WP 4860 forks that are heavily modified. It's a major improvement over the Ohlins rear shock and Marzocchi 45 mm forks my bike came with. I tell my drag racing buddies myself I don't have the "skills" or time to waist to work with the stupid electronics and thats why I'm getting out of Drag Racing. It's a waist of my time. Why build a 900 hp. engine, just to choke it with electronics and slow it down and run with the 700hp crowd. That doesn't take skill, it only takes away all the fun of driving. I missed the 100ft long wheelies into second gear. I can't get that anymore with the electronics installed so the cars going to a guy in Oklahoma for $40,000. Trailers going with it.
I don't know... of all the 450's I've owned and ridden, my 450 XC-W has the smoothest, most linear power-band I've ever experienced. The gas mileage is also great. That's what I'm seeing on my Husky 310 as well.
I like the performance and snap of my BMW G450X FI system. So far haven't had any real gripes. I read on here all the time of the trouble everyone has with their 449s and having to have the map reflashed by ZipTy. I wish I had a spare ECM I could get him to flash for me to the BMW map 3 so I could see if it would make an improvement but he won't do the BMW ECMs. Mine works fine now, no complaints. I've had a few flame outs on some hairy climbs sure but that was when I came to a complete stop. The same would have happened to a carbureted bike though. The BMW ECM is probably the same as the Husky 449 and 511. It looks exactly the same and it's the same basic engine, I have both, the TXC 449 in my BMW G450X and it runs fine on the BMW ECM with the BMW FI. What ever is the big difference I don't know, a sticker perhaps. I'm sure I'll find out now.
Interesting swap, and well done pulling it off! I've gotta ask why though?? I reckon the difference would be in the mapping by BM-trouble-you.
Why? I like having something that nobody else has and it always provokes a raised eyebrow when seen or spoke of. Simple as that to me but not others.. It works all the time. Or you wouldn't of had to ask why, see what I'm saying. To me it's got to be different and modified or I don't want it. I can't stand having something that you can just go buy.
