Front End Forks Swap YZ

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Shawn Johnson, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. Rickyme Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sydney Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650, WR300 both 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha TTR 600 Belgarda
    Yeh Im looking forward to replacing the shock later in the year
  2. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1
    Broke down and sourced almost everything locally. Waiting for the bars, raisers, bearings, and spacers. I wrote allballs to see if they could make a spacer with the extra 3/8th inch added to the nonrotor side. Debating on the rotor size, if all else fails moto-master will solve the brake issues and then some.
  3. Shawn Johnson Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Seattle
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Terra TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 KTM 1190 R, 2017 KTM 690 Enduro
    Great! Glad you are going to upgrade your bike to the YZ front end. I love my bike since installing them, and I have put on 3500 trouble free miles. You will be very happy with the results I'm sure. Everyone else that put negative input on this forum can kiss my butt(you know who you are).
  4. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1
    Lol i love how new you are to the forum thing. Ive read this full thread about 7-8 times. I was inpatient and put the forks on. Ive read one user did not add the extra spacer, just pulled the axle 3/8" into the fork. Not sure how i feel about that idea. I think i will just have a custom spacer made, i dont like the idea of 2 spacers on one side. Has anyone had a custom cable made to use the brembo booster yet? Figure there is no reason to change it out. Like i said before if its not enough brake, moto-master will solve all the braking issues, spendy but ill be able to flip the bike with one finger. Appreciate the time you put into this mod. Was basiclly a bolt on upishgrade. Need to have the forks rebuild/worked to my weight. 50mm of travel needs to be removed correct?
  5. Clete Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Roughly what does it cost to do the swap?
  6. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1

    Um i sourced everything local so i pay a bit extra for it.

    forks $150
    wheel $100
    Axle + spacers $15
    New bearings $18(i think)
    bar raiser - $60ish
    New fat bars $60ish
    oversized rotor & caliper adapter $130(they say the stock size is good but my wheel didnt come with a disc so if im going to spend the money anyways i might as well go oversized)
    Custom SS cable to maintain brembo booster, $?? (Have not ordered yet. Need to get some measurements and send them on over to spiegler usa, I will let them know to keep the measurements on file cause im sure SOMEONE from here will be ordering one.)

    Am i missing anything?

    Its roughly a $300-400 mod if you are patient and source cheap used parts. I wanted it all NOW so i found postings on ebay that were local to me. No love on the prices though.

    Im going to say the real cost is going to come with the rebuild/rework.
  7. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Thanks Grumpy! Why new bar risers, and bars? To clear the top of fork protruding through the upper triple clamp?
  8. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1

    Exactly! You dont NEED new bars, just the riser. But i have been meaning to upgrade to fat bars for a while and it was an excuse to get them :P
  9. WayneC Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Sydney
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar
    The YZ forks are designed to only clamp to the top 40 mm of the forks, clamping them at the thinnest section of the upper fork below that is not recommended and is a clear indication the forks have not had the length and travel shortened to suit the Terra
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  10. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1

    I plan on riding with it like that for a week or two until i get it dropped off for the suspension work. Thank you for that information though! News to me.
  11. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    I used a spiegler front brake cable. I will have to check the length. It was for a beta, I can't remember which bike. I used our stock front master cylinder, just use the stock banjo bolt with the supplied crush washers.
  12. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1

    Perfect! I called spiegler, have not had a chance to get out and measure anything. But if you could get me the number for the item you ordered, you would sure make life easier. :D Thanks in advance!
  13. Hansi Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    State of Jefferson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    09 Versys
    When you guys talk about YZ forks, what model and year Yamaha YZ do you mean?
  14. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1
    Did you read any of the thread? Lol yz426f
  15. Hansi Husqvarna
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    Location:
    State of Jefferson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    09 Versys
    Thank you . Very thankful of the work you guys have done.
  16. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
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    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1
    Incase anyone was wondering. The updated style nissin caliper off the newer hondas is a direct replacement to the one originally on the YZ, you just have to use the YZ hanger. The one that came with my setup needed to be rebuilt and it was $10 less to rebuild it then i found the updated style new for. I guess it is lighter then the older style but did not weigh them for comparison.


    New style on the left
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  17. Masterpotter Husqvarna
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    Location:
    South East PA. USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R27, R100, R1200gs,DT1,
    Ok, I just did this swap. It seems to me my axle is short. I have to push it into the axle hole on the fork to thread the nut. It's about 23.5 cm . It's from a yz 426 fork, I bought the whole fork.
    Can someone check ? The stock tr650 one is 26.5 .
  18. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1

    The axle is 'short', you can add a 3/8" spacer(i think)to the right side, to have the axle sit all the way in the right fork. I have not done this yet as i am still trying to find a good way to cut one of my extra spacers down.
  19. Masterpotter Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South East PA. USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    R27, R100, R1200gs,DT1,
    Not with the axle I have. If I push the axle in so it is flush with the right side fork, the axle is not sticking out the left side enough to thread the nut.
    The cut spacer is only to fill the space on the right side between the wheel and the fork. If I added the spacer my axle would be ever shorter on the nut side.
    On the YZ forks that I have the fork tubes are about 3/8" closer together than the TR (center to center) . This is why we need an "extra" spacer.
    If you have everything to do the swap could you please measure your axle and post , Thanks

    On another note, I used the stock brake line and stock master cylinder and just ran it down from the top just like stock. Seems to work fine.
  20. GrumpyShamurai Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    76 XL350 - 74 XL125 - 07 FZ1
    The original modder stated with a 3/8th" spacer there was just enough room to thread the nut on. I am in the middle of the swap myself. I did not add the extra spacer as i am going to just get an axle made with the extra 3/8th" added to the right side down the road. I used the stock brake line but did the 2" riser so it was TIGHT. Ended up getting a new line made locally that ended up being a few inches too long but will work. You may have gotten the wrong wheel spacers. I got the front end from a guy on ebay who SWEARS the spacers came off a yz426 but did not match any pictures i had OR the actual spacers i bought from allballs.