Oh Man, There's some good stuff coming. Sherco, Beta, GG. I don't think I can wait 2 years for the new Husky's.
Reiger is a dutch brand and respected for their products they are big in the motor cross side car suspension but also hot rod car racing and so outside of the Dutch,German,Belgium countries its not so famous yet I do hear good stories about them Robert-Jan
^^^ Yeah, I get all that and know quite well how good Reiger is, I have used them in the past... GG should spec a different shock for the American bikes so as to appease the ones that don't know. If they want to sell more, then more common parts are necessary in my opinion. Even Husky went KYB... Anyway, have a great weekend.
Ran into a fast Canadian on the trail this weekend with a new GG. Said it was a great trail bike but way heavy. He seemed like he liked the bike a lot but was pretty disappointed it weighed 280 pounds all set up. I think it was a 2012. He and another dude were good riders doing all the gnar.
its funny because these dirt bikes are so basic, i wonder where the extra weight is, wheels, tires suspension even linkage is pretty much the same in every make and model the frame has really got be the culprit no? the motor as well, does G-G use extra heavy drive train components, I mean inside like the gearbox itself? Crank and ignition flywheel? exhaust system cant be the issue its like any other machine,. swingarm maybe heavy as well? curious, I would guess frame itself CrMo in full overkill tube thickness and design. double ladder type semi perimeter (Like Italian cousin Fantic but G-G has a plate welded on)
My old '07 I felt was heavy, especially in the front, when loading and unloading. But as soon as you start rolling the weight disappears. I see it as a non-issue unless you are going to carry it around. After putting a skid plate and rad guards on it I abused it, dropped it, crashed all over the place and into things and nothing broke or dingded except the pipe. Same for engine internals: no issues after about 200 engine hours except a piston change. The other side of the coin could be that it can take serious abuse. Regrettably it seems many GG owners take this reliability for granted and treat their sorry bikes like crap. They should try that with lesser bikes. There should be some type of social services for bikes to report their owners to . Did you know that the engine cases have a drain screw right under the crank? At least the old ones did.
hammer That is for sure a contributing factor but think its just alloy , 30 freakin pound has to be steel parts. I remember the ATK406 internals were all like double dimension to its Japanese counterparts.
probably overbuilt like the huskys so it weighs a little more. Bigger frame, bearings, parts. My heavy GG250 did not really feel heavy on the trail and was a solid and very good bike. Was just reading about the KTMs this weekend and they are always looking to lose a gram here and a gram there. Smaller brake line, smaller bolts etc. I think you find places to loose weight incrementally as like you said, all bikes are comprised of basically the same parts the frame being the biggest place to save weight.
I'm ok with weight saving as long as it doesn't compromise reliability and toughness. I watched a guy flip my 2010 TC 250 and was thinking.... boy they are both gonna be hurting! To my surprise only the riders ego and the bikes exhaust were damaged; he paid for both. I do agree my 2011 GG 300 was on the heavy side but not so much in motion.
I changed from 2012 310 that had constant starter issues ,to a 2012 EC 300 2st no electric start . Back to basics. A few stupid designs, air filter and plastics. other than that when set up by Steve Plain (wizard ) a great tough bike that's very forgiving and plenty powerful. I still miss my 449 another great bike but too heavy for the conditions here in Wales unless ridden by Expert + level. 310 a missed opportunity because of the starter--great shame. twm
Pretty much sums it up for me. At C or B rider pace. Feels GREAT! You DO NOT notice the weight. But when you push the envelope and are a tish out of shape. The Chassis shortcomings review themselves! I heard the 14 2 strokes are to be 9 pounds lighter and that is still not enough! Blown corners, a pushy front and after countless laydowns HEAVY!!! But EYE CANDY FOR SURE!! Reliable YES. Quality components you bet!
I heard 9 pounds right from Steve's (GO FASTERS) mouth. Swingarm and engine? Still not sure if 9 pounds is enough. On a scale the bike well simply put is a PIG! But hey. DARN good looking!!!
If you blindfolded me it would be simple. The Husky 144/125 platform out handles the Gasser hands down!! At least at speed where safety and trust and confidence counts
Sucker sure does start easy (and I mean kicking!) for a 300!!! Aif filter. Yes robbing top end power!!!
I am still curious as to where you guys are getting this 9lbs or 14lbs? I haven't read that anywhere. And even if it is true, it needs to loose around 30lbs to be competitive. Someone show me where it says it is going to loose 14lbs or even 9lbs. For me the bike looks great. But that's where the great ends. Its to heavy, 274lbs is just to much, it also has terrible suspension, power is not that great, comes with bad tires, and for all that it's over priced. You would never catch me owning one.
