If someone tries a SMS with the TE ECU and a similar setup as Fast1 and the SMS comes up in 3rd too, I'm so gonna buy a TE ECU
I´ve found that I don´t need the max. speed (around 170kmh) and it blows my head off at anything over 150 kmh). So am thinking of sacrificing to last few kmh for a bit more acceleration. What setting would this entail?
Just ride fast more often and your neck muscles will get stronger! I went down one tooth in the front and I believe my top speed is around 150-155 km/h
I don't mean to thread jack here, I know the topic is SMS630 gearing recomendations but 3rd gear wheelies are no problem. My TE630 with PU kit, 14t sprocket, JD tuner, twin Leo's and opened air box will stand up on one wheel easily. I can actually switch from 3rd to 4th gear while running. A Husky 630 in TE or SMS form is just too much fun to ride! BTW, my bike in bone stock form would barley run let alone even think about a wheelie...in any gear
TE, bought new from Trooper Lu's about 6 months ago, since done approx 5,300 trouble free kms. I am very happy with the Arrow pipes, although the cost was ridiculous at nearly. $1900 plus 2 to 3 hours labour to fit & tune them. It may be worthwhile looking into the Barratt or Wings pipes - probably half the cost. Although these don't come with a new ECU like the Arrows do, this would probably be compensated if you fitted the JD tuner, which I also did - excellent bang for the buck mod at approx $240 delivered from the US within a few days of ordering. Regards, Russ
Hi Russ, cool. i already purchased the arrow system with ecu when i bought the bike from trooper lu's. Love the bike. i've only done about 1000kms and due for the first service in jan. i gather you just do offroad riding? Enrique
I do a mix of road (tar, gravel and mountain backroads) and off road (fire trails through to single track), depending on the mood and time availability. The bike is an excellent all rounder, but not great on extended tar or really tight off road stuff. Everywhere else it rips, particularly fire trails and dirt roads, where it is a monster powerslider. I prefer the TE to the SM as it opens up the numerous dirt roads and tracks around the Sydney area. I've owned more powerul bikes, but none were as much fun or as versatile as the Husky. Regards, Russ
Russ, did you find that the JD Tuner was able to improve on the new ECU that you got with the arrows pipes ?, and if yes how did it improve ?
The bike was run in stock form for the run in period of 1000km. At the first service the dealer fitted the Arrow pipes and ECU, without the DB killers and tuned it with IBeat. This transformed the power delivery - smooth idle, much more power and torque throughout the rev range, including right off idle. I was very happy with it in this trim... until I read the JD thread on this forum... and it sounded like I was misimg out on a very cost effective improvement. The JD was fitted at the 4000km service and the bike accelerates and revs noticeably harder now, although the improvement is not as much as I'd expected after reading the JD thread. This may be because I haven't modified the air box yet, whereas most others have. The only downsides with the JD are it now has a slight hesitation when rolling off the throttle and on again and the fuel consumption has increased, but these are minor and worth the trade off for the performance gain. I am not in a position to comment regarding the impact of the JD on an Arrow ECU vs standard ECU, but suspect that whatever improvements came with the Arrow ECU were modified by the JD, so the stock ECU plus JD may work just as well. Regards, Russ
Hmmmm....interesting... I first got a SM630 ran it stock for +600Km, then did the PU Kit - big increase in performance. Then did the JD Tuner at about 850km - again nice increase in power, not as big though as with the PU kit. Then I bought a TE630 with PU out of the box. Straight away the TE was nicer to ride than the SM below +/- 4000 RPM. Confirmed the superiority of the TE ECU by swapping ECU's betweeen the SM and TE. Then I opened up the air box of the SM and installed an OuterWears - very nice increase in performance and much stronger. Added a JD Tuner and an Outerwears to the TE with an equivalent increase in performance. I can feel on both bikes that the stock pipes are a restriction and must be replaced. So the thinking is : TE - Replace stock pipes with a full Leo Vince TI system. SM - the stock ECU has got to go. So 1) Replace with stock ECU with a TE ECU and go for a full Leo Vince TI system or 2) Replace the stock ECU with the Arrows ECU and get the Arrows pipes in at the same time. I feel that for the SM, option 1) would be more cost effective and yield better results. What do you think Russ ?
I tend to agree, although I can't comment on the merits of spending money replacing the SM ECU with one from a TE, as the fueling wil be modified anyway by the JD. As far as I can see, the main benefit of the Leo system is weight saving, which is a compelling reason on the TE but possibly a little less important on the SM. One of the main reasons I went with the Arrows is that they are stamped with the Husky logo, which I can point to if I'm ever pulled over by the police (has happened before when they were doing a blitz on noisy pipes) and also for registration inspections. Either option would be good and you will have covered the main areas - free flowing pipes, increased air intake and better fueling. You will enjoy more weight saving with the LV, but not the "compliance" stamp of the Arrows, which may not be important to you. Regards, Russ
Speaking in respect of my bikes: The on - off throttle experience on the SM is very pronounced and is not gradual, the TE ECU has a much smoother on - off throttle experience. On the TE, the instant you increase throttle, the bike accelerates noticelably. On the SM, when throttle is increased, there is a pronounced lag in acceleration and acceleration pick up is slow. Interestingly enough, opening up the air box and using a JD Tuner on the SM did not close the gap between the SM and TE (before air box moide and JD Tuner) ecu's below 4k rpm for me. It would be nice to know if the Arrows ECU changes more than just fuelling, eg if it changes ignition timming inter alia as well because then the Arrows kit would justify itself.
