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    TE = 2st Enduro & TC = 2st Cross

TE/TC Go Fat or go home

Discussion in '2st' started by robertaccio, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. Norman Foley Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    The point is... you don't get flats, unless the the mousse totally fails (usually due to running at high speeds, at high temps). This is why the lube is important and a if you run the same tires for a long time, they need to be unmounted, inspected and lubed regularly. They start out at about 13 PSI and gradually degrade and get softer. You can run the older/softer ones in more technical conditions, when you want lower pressure.

    It's a lot of work, but to serious racers, to whom a flat is disaster... it worth it!
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  2. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    Well, you can get a flat with a mousse, but it usually includes total tire loss to do it. Mousse grease greatly increases the life of your mousse and helps to cool it when running at high speeds.
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  3. Mike-AK Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Alaska
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE 310
    Thank you all for educating me. We've got moose up here, but we don't put 'em in our tires.
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  4. Johnrg Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Santa Barbara
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE 310 R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Sport Classic/Ducati SFV2
    So considering that heat increases with running lower pressures and may exceed what temps a tire is designed for/can stand... Has anyone experienced complete tire disintegration and disaster. In the old days on the paved track we looked for 10%f to 15%r for increase in pressure cold to hot as optimum and we'd adjust to fit that criteria. I would think tires really get abused these days and wonder if tire temp is out the window with mousses and super low pressures.... Then again I would not hit high speeds on hard or asphalt after a period without some concern. I never run low pressures for the most part even on tubeless w/mtb for sake of not flatting out as most terrain contains some rock.
  5. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    As there is no air in the Mousse why not install a grease nipple in the shrader hole and pump grease into it periodically?
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  6. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    I have been working with different compounds to transfer heat from the tread surface to the rim where the heat can be sinked off. Grease nipples seems like a good idea, although it would take a lot of them.
  7. juicypips Husqvarna
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    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Have a nipple on one side and the rim lock hole to purge out the otherside stop squeezing when it oozes out the rim lock hole... Mousse is fully greased. Im with kelly on this one.
  8. Mike-AK Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Alaska
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2012 TE 310
    Y'all have fun greasing your nipples. I'm gonna stick with tubes and air.
  9. troy deck Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    i'v obviously have never had ur nipples greased u should try it:banana:
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  10. ajaxauto Husqvarna
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    If you use the Enforce tire soap which is sold thru Zip Ty racing and it is used as directed the mousse will last a long time I get up to a year of racing Nationals and many regular rides out of a mousee. Then the mousse goes in the practice bikes I have a few that are over 3 years old and still are ok to use I have never hurt one yet using the Enforce tire soap

    You can not use to much soap just stuff it full rince it off and go ride most tires are shot in 2 to 300 miles so get a new tire lube it up and ride last a long time if done correct all my bikes have mousse
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  11. Johnrg Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Santa Barbara
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE 310 R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Sport Classic/Ducati SFV2
    Good to hear. If I could get away with a mousse for my riding would sure negate the worry of a flat and even with a tire tear, could zip tie to the rim and be OK. For me though 300 miles means and oil change but removing/replacing 2 tires not in the cards. Eventually progress will bring us better "run flats" more suitable for a mix of conditions and longer life. Maybe what we need is someone to develop "The Mousse Tubeā„¢" . A center core of a HD tube with a Mousse outer shell. For faster terrain and less heat you add a couple of lbs and deflate to suit otherwise.
  12. juicypips Husqvarna
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    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Or just go tubliss....
  13. Johnrg Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Santa Barbara
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE 310 R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Sport Classic/Ducati SFV2
    Considered it a year or so ago but at the time wasn't ready to drill the appropriate added holes and a local shop manager desert racer wasn't thrilled with them. He suggested tubes with Ride-On and higher pressures. My main concern is just getting out of the woods/boonies before nightfall safe. Could go any which way. What makes the most sense is running tubeless with Ride-On. Unfortunately any failure of the bead lock tube at 115lbs means my hand pump isn't effective for it and need to carry co2, and a sidewall cut can take you out. Any solution needs to be simple in the field.
  14. fletchman45 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    park rapids
    Never ran them till several years ago when I asked jay why he ran them. Simple reply all the preperation and bs involved and your drive. Don't want a flat. I thought about the race in Wisconson five hour drive one way. And everything else and said put them in....
  15. fletchman45 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    park rapids
    No flats!lasts longer then the tire and if your lazy like I am the cool thing is you don't need a tire pressure gauge! When it looks flat its time to pitch the insert. Spendy to buy and spendy to have mounted. I always thought would be cool to have a race set of wheels ready to go with this setup and stockers for practice! Someday...
  16. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    It is not easy to install a mousse. Takes a special kind of tire changer and a lot of spoons. I like to use a couple of vice grips too. This is why we built our DGTT tire tool. The tire seen bellow is actually the one we used to race Vegas to Reno on this year.

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    finished_tire.jpg
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  17. ajaxauto Husqvarna
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    Go mouse or HOME Once install go ride a long time no problem We spend 10,000 for a new bike then worry about a flat Really
    Call Zip Ty order a mouse order some soap Install it and go ride trouble free hit any thing you want
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  18. troy deck Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    what is that thing it looks funky like a cross between an old claw action Bridgestone and a trials tire
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  19. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    GT 723 - Rear tire F.I.M. approved. Designed for rally raid, it is developed to dig and penetrate soft terrains, providing excellent grip in all conditions. Polygonal knobs placed as an arrow on sidewall give acceleration and cornering traction. Carcass and compound are designed to resist to hard stress of enduro races.

    Personally, I prefer the 908RR.

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  20. troy deck Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    but you dont have a shipping container full of those right:cry: