HOLY CRAP BATMAN!! Check out the 2012 GAS GAS BIKES! WOW ROBIN holy Husky is in trouble! POW!BAM!ZOW

Norm,

I think Walt has some hidden R&D behind the scenes. Your right, he keeps changing numbers on us!

Da- I'm in the same boat. You only live once and I think I gotta have one of these!

Norm,

Everything I am doing now is going to be 164.5 cc's so I am calling them 165's. The extra 2.5 cc's isn't worth giving up the .020" of cylinder wall thickness when you get out that far. I love mine and in a few weeks I am going to do a little report on all the particulars. Very fun stuff and if you rode mine now you wouldn't be able to go back to the 144. It is an awsome motor. I would have to flywheel weight it if I was at sea level. Running 14x49 gearing in completely steep, rocky, loose, and loggy crap. Rarely need first. OBTW, My riding weight is 240#'s.

Walt,

They say you need 1cc per rider weight, per lb, which equals a 250cc bike, except when you ride a husky you only need .6875cc per rider weight, per lb. This equals about 165cc. Walt looks like your numbers are spot on! If you go back to the 167, you'll gave to gain about 4lbs which equals a 6 pack of beer with a handfull of slim jims!

Darin

Kelly,

Will have one or the other of my 165's. Hopefullly the newer version will be ready by then which should only improve on what I have now. Waiting for final delivery of parts.......I hate waiting.

K thanks for the tip on House of Horsepower; I need to give him a call. Hey Walt if Husky and KTM can call their 144's 150's just round yours up to 170!

I like your thinking on the cylinder... A 165 may save me from myself!

LOL no it won't! Lets see a 125 leads to a 144. A 144 leads to a 165. Now wouldn't a 175 be sweet? Now and how about a 200?

167 looks even better once you look at what a gg 200 weighed on Tasky's bathroom scales

So I am trying to figure out who buys the most new bikes, Kreig or John 01? My early money was on Kreig but I now have a count going on John!
GP

LOL you can't count the ones I give my son; so it's Krieg. Since 09 I've only picked up 6 bikes for me; new 07 Honda 450R, new 08 Husky CR125, new 2009 Husky TXC 510, used 07 Honda 450R, new 2010 TC 250, new 2010 GasGas 300, new 2011 TM 250 MX (gave to my son). Krieg buys a bike a month!

After all this talk about new GasGas bikes I got the bug to ride so I took my GasGas and Husky for rides back to back in the single track woods that is my back yard. I have to say that I still like the Husky better. The back end is more planted and less skiddish and I also prefer the grunt of the WR250 compared to the EC200. There is little to no need for clutch on a small step up or a log. Both bikes have a MT43 trials rear tire with the Tubliss set up which seems to suit the Husky better than the Gasser. The Ohlins shock and forks on the GasGas have been sprung and valved by LTR and are a little better at soaking up the little kickers, but the Husky, which I only changed the rear spring and serviced the forks changing the oil to 10w and lowering the level to 130mm works very well, in fact I wouldn't trade suspension with the Gasser even if I could. I know my GasGas is an 03 and the Husky is an 09 but I really doubt that the Husky is getting left behind. If Husky would/could drop 10 lbs off my same 09 WR250 I think it would be right back in the mix. My next bike will probably be a GasGas but not the one you may think, it's going to look like this http://www.gasgas.com/bikes_2012/2012_pro_300_lf_ft_a.jpg If my son doesn't start riding the 200 more often I may just sell it or trade it for one like in the picture.

I think GasGas has improved several times since your 03 to be honest. I also don't think a GG 200 would/could be compaired to any 250 2-stroke. I rode my 08 CR144 today around my home and man that thing is sweeet. I always wanted to try a trials bike but at 52 now I'm to old to start new tricks. It does look fun though.

I agree that GasGas has been improving a little or a lot every year. I was really trying to make the point that I like the more stable planted feel of the Husky rear end. The GasGas feels more nimble and twitchy which is an advantage in some cases but my Husky is a traction monster with the Tubliss trials tire. I lets me ride more relaxed and when I come to an obstacle just roll the throttle and climb over it. The 200 will do the same thing but it requires more clutch work and skill. It's more of a personal preference thing than trying to say which bike is better. I would like to ride a 2012 GasGas some day. I read they were a little taller which is another reason I prefer my Husky over my 03 Gasser.

I think if I tried a trials bike, I'd like to do it in a foam pit so I had a soft landing when I went over the bars.

Have you ordered that Dyno Porsche Pipe Yet!

Okay, are we all done pouting now? Since Husky hasn't pushed the bar enough forward for the 2 strokes? I will admit that I was dissapointed because of no E start, a 200, and list goes on. Actually, once I digested everything, I decided to do a punch list and go back thru both my bikes and look within. In reality, I use to purchase a bike every year, then it went every two years and now going out further. Looking across the starting lines and trail riding places. You are seeing bikes now 3, 4, 5 years old? It is because of the price tags. Average American vehicle is now kept for 10 years. Maybe I am just old fashion now and don't want to tackle a new bike payment.

If I was up for a new bike, I think that I would look at them all and get the one that had as many comforts and advances, for the right price, according to what fits my needs! I am always gun shy of 1st year models of everything, so they can work the bugs out.

Norm and John, hats off to you guys and get what you want. The Bergs/Gassers are Awesome! If I was going to buy a new bike, they sure would be catching my eye.

I did a punch list on both my bikes and myself. So here is the direction I am going to go. (This is me just talking now).

On my Wr 250 Punchlist:

Carb/Powerband - Done

Adjustable power valve springs- Walt I am counting on you to help me so we can get you to produce some springs that we can share with others.

Making it Kick Easier, especially when trying to raise your muddy boot - Done

Wouldn't start in gear without lunging/hard clutch pull - Done

Keep it from stalling and some ease with tight woods racing- Rekluse is on my list.

Suspension still stiff - Working on it as we speak.

Brakes - Going to go with newer rotors this winter and on my list.

Rims - Black rims are on my list

Graphics, plastics, frame - On my winter list to look like the 2012's.

Better Riding Techniques - Riding Class is on my list. I want to learn/put use as much as possible before I leave this earth.

Lose some weight- On my list and currently working on.

Get in better shape- On my list and currently working on.

Take a better look at shedding some bike weight- On my list.

On my WR 125 Punch list:

Suspension is to stiff - Currently working on it.

Motor - I think I want to try a 165 from Walt, because of my weight, on those sharp turn, up hill battles - it is on my list.

Plastics, graphics, frame - On my list.

Take a better look at shedding some bike weight- On my list.

AND FOR SURE - GET SOME OF THAT FANCY RIDING GEAR!

Just got to thinking the other night. If I get a new bike, then I will be back to doing the suspension, jetting, tires, handle bars, and etc.... I have almost 2 low hour, perfect bikes, custom tailored to me. I think it will put me over the edge just trying to get a bike dialed in and waisting another year of work. Then, as soon as I get a new one, never fails, the DI Two Stroke will come out.

This is a great site, I have sure learned alot from everyone and am greatful! You guys have saved me time, money and it is even great sharing stuff that worked for me! Not only, making some new friends in the process!

Oh and by the way! The Horses got their winter coats early this year and that is a bad sign!

Thanx!

Darin

LOL yes Darin! I ordered a Fabspeed exhaust, sent the turbos for impeller changes, got the ECU re-written, and installed a Greddy boost controler not to long after I got the car. It now puts down 560 AWHP and 550 Ft lbs of Tq! BTW I totally agree, this site is awesome and so are many of it's members.

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