1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

How many shift without the clutch

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by HuskyDude, Aug 1, 2009.

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How many shift without the clutch

Never use the clutch except starts/stops..etc 31 vote(s) 29.2%
Always use clutch every gear. 30 vote(s) 28.3%
Only shift without clutch sometimes 47 vote(s) 44.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. TE450 Jeff Husqvarna
    B Class

    Mostly yes.
  2. brock Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    UK
    Short shift alot on the 2 stroke when its on the gas.
    Tending to use it again on the four stroke... Not raced it yet though.

    Brock
    WR 250 01
    TE 510 09
  3. Bagman Husqvarna
    A Class

    I use the clutch a lot. I feel guilty when I don't. I also replace my own clutches [very seldom] & I don't like unnecessary work, especially when it comes to changing out a gear!
  4. Sandgroper Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Dubai
    Changing gears without using clutch on txc 510..

    After afew rides I have gotten into a bad habit of changing up through the gears without using the clutch. I probably do it 30 of the time as the terrain and speed tends to mean this happen pretty quick before I get a chance to reach for the lever.

    With my old CRF 450 R this never caused any issues. How well does the Husky like being treated like this? Obviously I dont want to screw up a new bike by being lazy with the trigger finger.
    :doh:
  5. Vegas Husky Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Las Vegas Nevada
    The only time I didn't use my clutch is when the cable broke at the lever. I zipped-tied a combo wrench to the nut holding the arm on the case, pushed it back with my heel and reached down with my hand to put in first. After that I shifted clutch-less the rest of the way home...not a easy thing to do on the streets of Las Vegas!!
  6. moto_fish Husqvarna
    A Class

    Isn't it bad to shift without the clutch? Like shredding gears bad? or do you ALL have the Rekluse?
  7. gandalf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Jersey
    Not if you do it right. The same goes for most cars with manual transmissions though I've only done that when I had no other choice. I once had a clutch cable break on a 79 VW van so I drove without the clutch for about 2 months until I got around to fixing it. It was rougher on my starter more than anything.

    I think most of us posting here do not have the Rekluse including me;-)
  8. Luigic81 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Hillsboro, OR
    I only use the clutch to downshift, and then only if I am braking hard, If I can get my rpm's low before downshifting, no need for the clutch. Upshifting I never use it, but I ride on the track mainly (old roadracing habit) it's just quicker to roll off and up shift, once you get a feel for it, it's waay smoother than using the clutch to upshift
  9. HuskyT Moderator

    Location:
    Corona, California
    Hardly ever use it except starting and stopping ... do not use it at all racing GPMX...

    T
  10. Jrmobb Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Simi Valley,ca
    the only times i don't use it, is when im in a tight situation and i dont have time for the clutch. Rpm's are bogging so i just smash on the lever.
  11. moto_fish Husqvarna
    A Class

    Is there a way of doing it right? I have accidentally forgot to clutch on my 97 VW jetta, and it felt like I had ground a pound of gear in the street. I would rather not do a bottom end on my new Husky...
  12. Jrmobb Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Simi Valley,ca
    It's perfectly ok to shift without a clutch.you just have to do it right.when your ready to shift roll off the throttle so the engine is no longer pushing the bike, the bike is basically coasting from momentum. then you can shift and there is no longer stress on the tranny. then roll back on the gas and go.


    dirt rider had a article about that back in the day.
  13. gandalf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    South Jersey
    Jrmobb has it right. For your VW, it's basically the same thing but you don't just shift it. Instead, you put tension on the shift lever and it will fall out of gear and into the next gear. Some cars are different than others though. I remember one care(not sure what make/model) that had a mechanism to prevent shifting without a clutch. Some cars constant pressure on the shift lever in the direction you want to go; other cars you put pressure on until it falls into neutral, then let off and put pressure on again. Also, for cars, possibly because it isn't as instant as a bike, the engine speed needs to be at just the right speed. What I mean to say is while letting off the throttle there is a sweet spot for shifting without a clutch. Hope that helps.