How to check your valve clearances pictorial

Discussion in 'TR650' started by RuggedExposure, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
  2. Thumpa Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    san francisco bay area, california usa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    CCM Dakar, G650X
    I paid $375 for the valve job, included oil change and filter. Plus a freshen up on both brake hydraulic fluids, and an adjustment to the rear brake pedal. Which was stuck in the on position, something i was unaware of.
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  3. bluegopher Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Woodland Park, CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Sounds like a well spent $375 after reading RE's write up.
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  4. Thumpa Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    san francisco bay area, california usa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    CCM Dakar, G650X
    I must admit at the time, it was money set ad=side for a bashplate/crashbars. Now i see it as money well spent. It'll be a good while before i can must up the time and shop space to tackle such a task. Somehow someway there has to be a better way!
  5. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300

    I agree. This is madness.
    Do you really design a bike like this? Does it have to be so complicated?
  6. nev.. Terrarist

    Location:
    Greensborough, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '13 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '14 XT1200ZE

    It doesn't "have to" be that complicated, but the non-complicated version has that 3 gallons of fuel over the top of the engine, instead of down beside your ankles.
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  7. Tazzierob Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tamar Valley, Tasmania
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    1991 Yamaha XT600
    Yep, go buy a DR or KLR if simplicity is what you're after. I'd sooner ride around the world on one of those than a TR. I've never done a valve check on my bikes, and will be leaving this one to the dealer to do, especially during warranty, as I'd be bound to cock something up and void it. Good on someone for having the balls to tackle it themselves, hope RE gets her back together without too many more tears
  8. BikingEngineer Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Redlands, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 Kaw. EX500, 1981 Honda CM400C
    I agree, I think $375 would be quite worth it with a task like that. I'll probably take Tazzierob's approach and get it done until the warranty's up, then get it done as needed (which on every other vehicle I've had is quite infrequently).
  9. bikehunter Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Hampshire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Strada 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Harley, bmw, moto guzzi
    I bet there will be a lot owners marking bolt heads to prove that the mechanics have actually checked the valves in their service schedule:)
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  10. nwrider1 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    SW Washington
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    Too many to list
    A big plus 1!
  11. RuggedExposure Now with more rugged!

    Location:
    BFE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '08 Meanstreak 1600, '95 DR350
    [IMG]
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  12. MadDogTR Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Bakersfield, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes, many.
    In what state or country?

    I always ask for before and after measurements.
  13. Coffee CH Owner

    Location:
    Between homes - in ft Wayne IN
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250, 2013 TR650 Terra - sold
    It's not Husqvarna that is at fault, it is the "BMW way of doing things". Needlessly complicated designs, at least as far as the automobiles go.
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  14. blaine.hale Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Terra TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    1973 BMW r75, 1974 BMW R90, Bultaco

    That's never been a standard of BMW until the oil heads. Airheads have a pretty known model: "simple by choice"
  15. RuggedExposure Now with more rugged!

    Location:
    BFE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '08 Meanstreak 1600, '95 DR350
    So I began the task of putting the Terra back together, and I happened to glance over at the forks. There is a sticker there:
    [IMG]

    And on this dandy sticker it states the clearances for valves...
    INTAKE: 0.06 - 0.10 MM (0.002 - 0.004 IN)
    EXHAUST: 0.26 - 0.30 MM (0.10 - 0.11 IN)

    But the craptastic 'shop manual' states:
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    What in the Hell?

    Which one do I go off of? According to the shop manual my valves are at the very bottom clearances... according to the bike itself, the intakes are fine and the exhaust is too loose...
  16. Ogre_fl Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cook Bayou, FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger 1050
    FWIW the specs on the fork tube are closer to what that BMW G650X specs were.

    Inlet 0.03mm - 0.11mm
    Exhaust 0.25mm - 0.33mm

    I would call my dealer.
  17. RuggedExposure Now with more rugged!

    Location:
    BFE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '08 Meanstreak 1600, '95 DR350
    I called them up and the guy in the service department said go off of the workshop manual...

    OK. Then why does the bike say different?

    He didn't have an answer for that.

    I also asked him about the dust problem, and asked if that would be under warranty. He said no because its the user's responsibility to make sure the filter is working.

    I'll be damned.
  18. chris1261 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    North Jersey
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada

    There's also a sticker on the bike that shows the carbon canister hose routing which is incorrect. seems like you can't trust the stickers on the bike at all.
  19. Ogre_fl Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Cook Bayou, FL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Tiger 1050
    I dont know who your dealer is but I would call some of the bigger Husky dealers too about the sticker vs manual call out.

    I would fight that filter statement tooth and nail.

    You checked it according to the schedule in manual, right?
    20,000 KM or 10,000 KM for very dusty condtions
  20. RuggedExposure Now with more rugged!

    Location:
    BFE
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    '08 Meanstreak 1600, '95 DR350
    Yes, I'm about 500km shy of 10k.

    I called up the service department in Tuscon, where I bought the Terra. The guy said just go off of the manual, that's what they have done the 3-4 valve checks they have performed.

    I also asked him about the dust getting by the air filter and he told me that's the customer's problem. Nice.

    Looking at the part's fiche:
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    It appears that #9 is the disk you can change to adjust the valve clearance... That's great and all, but how do you know which one you need? Let's say you have to bump it up 0.05mm, but you need to know what the thickness is of the one installed from the factory and go 0.05mm from there. I suppose you would have to order two sets of these disks to adjust your valves. Or take your bike apart and wait for UPS to bring you the disk you need every time. At $11 a disk, that will be close to $450 after shipping.

    Wouldn't it be cheaper to just order the $30 intake valve and just replace it every time it falls out of adjustment? Or do these valves eventually stop wearing and settle into a final adjustment?