I put Norm's picture up on my desk and have been looking at it for a couple of days and it's starting to grow on me. If Juha waxes 'em with it in Italy, then one of the Husky guys can start doing good with it straight off, I'll want one. A bike that worked without chain torque loads on the suspension has long been a dream of mine. Maybe I'll live to see it happen.
There really is no reason to apologise (English correct spelling! :-) ). As Coffee said it was amusing to see how things get changed very quickly in forum land. This thread appears to be the first time Centrostyle has been mentioned on CH so it's likely that someone read the original post and then went off at a tangent from there! Cheers...Dave
I wish people would not say new engine when it is just the old BMW G450x motor with some miner mods. They haven't even added a front engine mounting...
Well perhaps your right Dave.....but with Scot Hardens presence and taking the time to come on Cafe Husky and give us the skinny on the new machine.... Here I had to go and post something silly....and almost came off as a guy that (UK saying?) was "taking the -iss" I guess it was kinda funny
Strange thing for a Husky fan to say. Maybe you ride a BMW and not a Husqvarna to say that! You don't sound very patriotic...
I'm not quite sure what the point is here - no one has ever said it's anything other than an evolution of the original G450X engine (and I'm fairly confident that that between Husqvarna and BMW the technical expertise exists to evolve the product!). It isn't the same engine as the G450 and it's never been in a Husky before so 'new' is a reasonable term IMHO. With regards the front engine mount, originally the castings were designed not to need one so why add something unnecessary? From a development point of view it's much easier to build a frame to suit a proven engine layout rather than developing new engine castings. This has enabled Husqvarna to bring the new 450 to market in a relatively short space of time whilst developing several other new product lines. Dave
I will feed you with some more pics and vid's http://www.oliepeil.nl/cache/bmw_hu...512728141751272814142_thumb_medium619_464.jpg To bad the vid's are short and low quality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUG0Jvh4nQQ [YOUTUBE]OUG0Jvh4nQQ[/YOUTUBE] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eamh9fpds [YOUTUBE]Z4eamh9fpds[/YOUTUBE] ...
more stuff from EU http://www.oliepeil.nl/gepeild/409-husky-met-bmw-blok-weer-gespot.html Thanks to Iwan van der Walk at Mototaal.com
Cant seem to find anymore pics other than this......I'll have to look some more Notice finger followers on the intake with pretty impressive downdraft for sure....and inverted bucket tappets on the exhaust...also notice the starter on the front I would really like to see a cutaway of the clutch and gearbox..
I'm really interested in this linkage and trying to make sense of how it works. So, here's what I'm envisioning....feel free to chime in with your thoughts because I probably have no clue what I'm talking about As the swing arm goes up the linkage goes up further, thus increasing the force on the shock spring more than a traditional linkage (or no linkage at all). So, does that mean the system uses a progressive rate spring? If so, is it designed to be really light action at full extension so the bike "sits down" better in corners and handles small bumps better? Scot? Anybody?
With the unique design of the engine... ie the swingarm pivot going straight through the countershaft.....there is no room for the shock or linkage anymore...it had to be put on top of the swing arm yes its rising rate...the forward links on the front of the rocker are mounted on the frame/engine area and changes the position or height of the rocker arm ....I dont think a progressive wound spring applies... again this is probably a good idea...as it places more mass toward the roll center of the bike being higher up and closer to with the fuel tank etc... will it work ????? Husqvarna has some great engineers and exceptional riders.....we will know very soon some things never change though...looks like Juha has been frying boot on the pipe
Don't think the Rocker would like a progressive spring for racing. Think it would create some wallow feel, and would need stiffer shims to assist it from blowing trough the stroke. Think it will have a light enough action, at low speed to warrant a stright wound spring. Haven't rode the bike , just assuming. Service should be a snap, along with shock removal. The Rockers gona rock in a couple of weeks !!
Not knowing the lengths are center lines exactly, it looks like it should have a progression rate similar to most other rocker type links, possible a little higher in the last third.
I also find it very interesting that Husqvarna using this engine....has really committed themselves to the entire concept of mass centralization and optimized roll center....this engine has been designed to be used in no other way.... if one thinks Yamaha tried to reinvent the wheel with the 2010 YZF 450 by tilting the cylinder backward...and exchanging the intake with the exhaust etc......this Husky/BMW concept goes pretty much all the way....by relocating the suspension and fuel tank to new locations.... obviously we dont know how well it will work...but this is a whole new ballgame
