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TE/TC Husqvarna TC150

Discussion in '2st' started by wallybean, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    So has anyone found out if the estart could be retrofitted?
  2. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    My information is that it can. It will have to be a pretty extensive kit but certainly doable. I am really interested to see the gear ratios in the '17 TE150. The TC150 will require some gearing down to make it more manageable in the tight, climbing, rocky switchbacks/gnarly stuff where you can't count on any momentum. At least not at a B rider level and high altitude. Checking the ratios in the old TE/XC first is considerably lower and sixth is a bit higher.

    The close ratio box is pretty tight. I found myself working up some gnarly climbs and finding at the top I was in second. I am just using so many gears, found myself losing track as I was so deep into the gears on any quicker areas. Pretty strong endorsement for the motor that it was able to pull those areas with just a bit of clutch work in that gear. TE first is 2.75, TC is 2.29, TE sixth is 1.00, TC is 1.09, so the TE should be certainly a better woods/endure box.
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  3. DTX915 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kdx200 tt500 yz450 klx125


    the case was cast but never machined, so that would need someone to start by machining the opening
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  4. DTX915 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kdx200 tt500 yz450 klx125


    the case was never machined and this has caused my computer to double post
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  5. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    I should also note as DTX915 has said, the TC150 with the stock carb was not smooth enough to be really efficient in tight woods. It translates as explosive but I think it is more a case of the jetted carb is inefficient working between circuits making the hit more noticeable and hard to handle. Comparing the stock carb to the Smart Carb is where you really see how explosive the motor can be. No comparison the Smart Carb produces far more upper mid to top than the stock carb well jetted. I have no axe in the carb fight but give me a metering rod carb any day over jets.

    The starter would be a time consuming swap for the TC. Not only will the case need to be machined but the ignition is not going to accept a ring gear in its current configuration. Not that I don't doubt that they will offer a conversion at some point it just will not be simple.
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  6. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    '17 TC250 appears to be the same configuration as TC125... cases aren't machined for adding starter and ignition isn't compatible.
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  7. rockdancer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 WR125, 2019 FE350
  8. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    I am in the process of stroking another 165 right now. My buddy who loves his 165 spent a day on my 177 and finally acknowledged that he wanted the extra bottom/mid that the 177 produces. It just makes it easier to ride in the worst stuff. He is going to have his done this winter.

    I think just as DTX915 has said it reminds me of my '12 Italian Husky. Precise and quick yet stable. Just reduce the weight by 20 lbs immediately. Amazing and really impressive. I certainly don't have the suspension dialed and yet it is completely rideable as it sits with just some clicker work. I also think the stock TC150 motor is clearly superior to the Italian Husky at every rpm. Bonus is that the power valve system is completely adjustable. The manual tries to tell you that you must leave it at "X" but I don't really understand that as it is very easy to adjust and it makes significant differences in character. The Italian Husky power valve design just does not allow the kind of linear power band and adjustability of the new TC/TE Husky 150.

    I am a heavy rider with riding weight of ~240 LBS:eek:! Its all in the backpack....no really it is all in the backpack?! Small changes to the power valve timing and opening make pretty big differences to me as I have a significant amount of flywheel weight sitting on the seat resisting quick spool up.

    I have ordered a TE150 as I really want the wider ratio gear box(I am talent challenged) and electric start(I am old and short). I will be bumping compression on the TC150 and doing some other internal intake and exhaust port work to make it a bit more efficient. Certainly nothing that is going to make earth shattering differences and will be most noticeable on the bottom/mid(compression) and top(efficiency). It is going to be interesting to see if the new TE can keep that same amazing feeling that the TC has.

    I know that there is some speculation on enlargement of the 150. I will do some work with the TE150 to make it a 155 versus 144 and if it is worth it. Stroking may be an option but I don't know if I want to mess with the little jewel of a crank that is in the motor now. There isn't a lot of room and I kind of don't want to mess with the extra forces involved in a motor that is pretty much on the edge of design strength now. Not convinced there is a need either with how well this motor works with a metering rod carb.
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  9. DTX915 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kdx200 tt500 yz450 klx125
    Still have the three motors 2013 WR144, 2014 150SX and the 16 150SX
    Smoothest is the WR -Stock
    Fastest is the 14 SX -Turbo ring and shorty
    Best overall 16 SX -Power parts silencer and Lectron

    Best turning is the 16 SX then the WR this is a close call and only edges the Husky because of the 4CS conversion. The older 14 turns slower, its good but not Husky good. In a dead drag race the 14 motor is faster than the new motor and the WR.
    If I had to pick one to ride all day then the WR wins with the big tank as right now the 16 only comes with a small tank on the good chassis as the other chassis is just ok.
    Now the 17's will change all of this. Like KTM has said before a common platform with small changes to the bike for Husky so in 17 everyone get's new choices like PDS versus linkage.
    I see no reason to build a 125 to 150 as the cost of a 150 is less than the kit plus bike and for that matter e-start. Not that it isn't fun its just we can buy them set up in a few different ways soon.


    I need to stop collecting these thing's LOL
  10. rockdancer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Sunshine Coast, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 WR125, 2019 FE350
    Its interesting that the 14 is quickest - I thought the power came up more in 2016 . '16 models lighter and better handling right ..
    A few older TE 125s in Oz .
    I can get older 14 models TC125s quite cheap but big jump up to 16 models ( double ) and no 150 that Ive seen - I guess the kit can be imported .
  11. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    No kit for older 150, as it is a bore and stroke motor and you need to buy all the parts separately. You need to split the motor and install the 150 crank, as well as the complete 150 top end.

    I converted my '15 TE125 with slightly used parts from a '14 150XC. The owner of the 150, was converting it into a 200, which also requires crank and top end.

    Before I converted mine, I got to ride a '12 150XC, '16 150SX and 200XC-W (EXC), back to back with my TE125. Old style 150 felt like a small 200 and new style felt like a big 125.

    I picked up a '16 200XC-W with 8 hours on it this spring. The only real advantage of the 200XC-W over my TE150, is the estart. I prefer the light, nimble feeling of the 150, over the 200. The '17 TE150 should be perfect for me. The 150 and 200 are for sale!
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  12. Zomby woof Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 CR 150
    You guys are killing me.

    I'm at the point where I need more power than my 11 CR150 has. I love the bike, and how it handles, but I can also make a case for a new bike if I decide to go that route. So at this point I'm debating. Do I go 165 with my Husky, or look at a leftover 16 150SX this winter? Decisions, decisions...

    And then there's the TM144 option:thinking:
  13. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    Sounds like you need a new tc125, 150 kit, and a smartcarb ;)
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  14. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    All that will probably come in cheaper than the TM144! :oldman:
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  15. LandofMotards Moderator

    Location:
    Colorado
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 TC250
    After you mwntioned the tm it got me thinking, the te150 will be over 8k and roughly the price of a beta300. Thats one pricey bike too lol
  16. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    I went on a ride with all the guys from the local KTM shop including the sales manager. Kind of worked as a demo ride. The Lectron equipped TC150 drew rave reviews for the motor, handling, and overall performance. One rider has a 2015 XC 150 and he was stunned by the difference and especially the motor. Couldn't believe how linear and smooth the power band is and how much more it has everywhere. He kept remarking how in the gnarly steep stuff he could use several different gears and it would grunt and pull or scream versus his '15 which is one gear choice only. The difference in weight is so noticeable when riding as we traded off back to back. His bike seems really light until you compare them together. The difference in stability and quickness is also significant. It really was like comparing a razor blade to a butter knife. His suspension was far better as it has been pretty well re-valved and setup. The stock TC150 suspension is intended for somewhere other than slow, technical, rocks and climbs.

    I can't wait to get the new TE150 and set it up the way I want it with all the lazy man options- Flex Bars, Left hand rear brake, auto clutch and it already has a button, kick stand, and wider ratio tranny.:thumbsup:
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  17. racemx904 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    owenton, ky
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 Beta 350RR & 1986 430XC
    Other Motorcycles:
    1975 Rokon and 2004 Kawasaki KX65
    $800 more bucks and you can get a 300..... yikes
  18. Huskynoobee CH Sponsor ZipTy Racing

    Location:
    Castaic, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 TE449 2006 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    HDUltra Classic IT200 YZ250 SV650s
    They are surely not interested in waiting to recoup their R&D costs for 2017.
  19. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    The 300 is $1200 more retail? I don't know where the $800 is coming from. Still not much difference and a lot of money for a bike these days. By the time you set it up the way you like it, you can add at least $2K, so they are all $10K+ bikes now. Seems like just the price of doing business now.
  20. Norman Foley Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    If it was a 150 XC, it was a 2014. 2015 was 150 SX only and last of the old style.
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