Lectron carb tuning guide

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  1. huskylove Husqvarna
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    norcal
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    1999 cr125 in progress
    Seems to run damn good actually out of the box. It doesnt have the top end rush it used to but I was able to hold a wheelie through the whole block in third gear with the first half of the throttle useage. This tells me I have a TON more torque. Before I would have been wide open near the top of the rev range but it came up in the middle and was able to hold it pretty nicely.

    So far quite impressed!
  2. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    Nice. Try playing with the external PJ to gain top end. Probably go leaner (in).
  3. Xcuvator Husqvarna
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    If the idle is still hanging I would turn the metering rod a quarter turn clockwise.
    Ditto if it still does.
    It could improve the top end too.
    But don't forget, only one change at a time.
  4. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

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    xcuvator is right, when a two stroke hangs a bit at idle like that its lean. fatten it up a quarter turn. threading the rod into the slide will richen the bottom/mid, threading it out will lean it. you may have to turn your idle back up a tad. you will get your top end back.....plus some once the powerjet gets dialed in. its fairly sensitive 1/8th turns have a felt effect.
  5. huskylove Husqvarna
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    1999 cr125 in progress
    Hey guys got an issue with my bike.
    Ran fine last time I rode it, went to give it a rip around the dead end street...warmed it up, did one half throttle pull up and down the street. Then I gave it one rap of wide open 1-3rd felt great. Then immediately when I went back to idle if I gave it ANY throttle it would bog like it was out of fuel. I had it on reserve already. Putted back to the shop, added 1 gallon of 40 to 1 premix. Same problem it would rip down the street one time then bog like it was running out of fuel.

    I took the tank off checked the plug, it is fairly recent and was a bit wet around the edge with fuel but the electrode was dry, was getting great bright blue spark out of the plug. Did a compression test and got 160psi which is down from 180psi from a few rides ago but i used a different tester. Pulled the carb out and dried turning the needle in 1/2 turn (richer) it does the same thing if not a tad bit worse. I can get 1 1-3rd wide oopen pull then it is bog city.

    Fuel in the bowl seems slightly high but not that much and was like that from day 1.

    So I pulled the exhaust off and checked operation of the power valves they moved freely, I then adjusted the power valve linkage as some have suggested on this site, checked everything sprayed wd on the linkage and centrifugal bits just in case. Shined a light into the exhaust port and the piston/walls have up down wear but do not seem to be seized or anything.

    It starts with a bit of throttle and blows lots of smoke at idle an on rev. Even when warmed up.

    On part throttle cruising it seems fine if you give it more throttle it kind of goes bwaaaaaaahhhhh then clears up a bit. When you go wide open the top end feels quite weak now but revs out okay, then you come back to idle and it bogs like its got no fuel.

    I am thinking the bike is/was running rich?

    But I do not understand why this is a sudden problem? Maybe the spark plug took a crap? Clogged something in the new carb?

    This bike is driving me off a fuggin cliff man.
  6. huskylove Husqvarna
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    Flash makes the plug look lighter than it is, but its quite wet around the plug but dry at the electrode....looks super lean right?
  7. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    tank vent and overflow tubes clear?
  8. huskylove Husqvarna
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    All tubes/lines are clear and actually everything is new never been in the dirt yet :\
  9. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

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    is there a way to watch and see if your powervalve moves under load or at least in neutral? if this is the case you have a rich bog going on, and richening your rod making the problem worse makes sense with this. there really isnt anything to plug in a lectron as they will pass water easily as well.
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  10. huskylove Husqvarna
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    it is pretty sudden. It was fine then like next run in with no changes started messing up.
  11. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

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    could be ignition or something broke in powervalve actuation. only thing that could plug in lectron is the "pick up tube" the rod slides in and out of. thats a fairly large opening. this is your first 2 stroke right? dont get too frustrated, it takes time to learn the ins and outs. alot of the time it can be something simple.
  12. lankydoug Husqvarna
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    You should check if you're losing coolant or getting compression gasses in the cooling system. It could be digesting some coolant once the engine is warm and the coolant is under pressure. If it isn't at least you can check it off your list... Also checking crank seals would not be a bad idea.
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  13. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    Did you just change your spark plug? I have seen some huskys not like non resistor plugs and die up top like that. My brand new 04 CR125 did that. Seemed carb related. Switched to a resistor plug and issue disappeared.
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  14. huskylove Husqvarna
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    Plug has 3 rides on it.

    Did not change it since the last time i rode the bike.

    Will check for bubbles or leaks in the coolant.
  15. lankydoug Husqvarna
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    Seat of the pants ignition and fuel problems can be impossible to tell apart. It's best to go through the checks and do the obvious and cheaper guesses first. I never caught what model bike you have. My 09 WR250 had 205 psi cranking compression so if I saw 160 the top end would be coming apart immediately, other models 160-180 psi is a good number.
  16. NCSteve Husqvarna
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    I'm in the process of tuning a new Lectron on my 300, will post it when I'm done.
    In the meantime I did my fav 30 mile loop 2 days in a row and used @ 1 gallon of fuel each day. And that's not puttin' around. Half of that loop is fast fireroads and the rest is my attempt at race pace through the woods. Maybe it's 28 or 26 mpg, but I think it's closer to 30 and I'm impressed.
    In general, my bike is transformed by the Lectron. It now starts, not easily yet when cold, but 1 kick when warm. With the Rekluse along too it now has fantastic usable bottom, smooth powerful mid and an outrageous top end that I have yet to reach the end of. That's with the stock pipe and a Qstealth SA. So, thanks to all, especially Kelly. Very happy with this setup and working on making it even better.

    more later :cheers:
  17. Motosportz CH Sponsor

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    Very cool and thank YOU. Might try 1/4 turn richer on the roid and see if that helps starting. Sometimes adds bottom too depending on where your at. Glad you like it.
  18. NCSteve Husqvarna
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    Well, I was already 1/2 rich from how I got it. I should have measured first thing, but didn't. Then Sunday I was in a hurry to go ride, but wanted to go another 1/4 rich to improve cold starting and maybe get rid of a little mid range sputtering. I did it quickly, but then when I was getting geared up I thought, did I turn that in or out? Once I questioned it I wasn't sure anymore and cold start didn't improved and the sputtering is a little worse.
    Now I'm going to measure the rod :doh: then turn it 1/2 richer and expect an obvious change at least.
    Can't test until Thurs, so more later.
    Thanks for your continued help. Also, got your email and will do.
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  19. wrtimmy Husqvarna
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    2014 WR300
    My bikes a '14 WR300 (last red husky model) and here is my plug today after a bit of a ride (not a chop), just a 2 hour ride and wanted to get a general feel of things. Bike was running well I think!

    TBH I can't recall where I have the rod now - it's been about 8 months since I put the carb on! Until the other day I hadn't messed with the powerjet, but the other night decided to lean it ever so slightly on the PJ. It was at 1 5/8 out, and I went in 1/4 turn to 1 3/8 which seems about spot on. Since putting the lectron on, the bike starts and idles great, it occasionally wants to die when at a stop with the clutch in and in gear, but I think that's to do my clutch adjustment not the carb. I also think I could go a tad richer on the bottom end? Last time I messed with the rod I leaned it a 1/4 turn to get it where it is now which gives me the best starting and a nice idle out of gear. Seat of the pants feeling just feels like it could use a bit more bottom end grunt, so maybe time for that special rod and richen it up slightly?

    Attached Files:

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  20. juicypips Husqvarna
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    Looks good, but i find lectrons hard to read with the plug, just try the rod a 1/4 richer and see if that feels better.
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