1. 2 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    WR = 2st Enduro & CR = 2st Cross

125-200cc Looking for a simple oil/gas ratio

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by eric125, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    the jetting between 40:1 and 50:1 is pretty negligible
    riding single track I get a little spooge drool on open terrain it's barely noticeable so I am happy with my jetting
    40:1 is 2.5% oil to fuel 50:1 is 2% so 1/2% not really an issue
  2. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Here is my plug after 160 hours, 165 husky with Lectron running 40:1 Amsoil and pump premium. Snapped that shot yesterday. This plug has been through several hard ISDE's, many gnarly rides and over 1700 miles, 250-8400 elevation. I get a good amount of spooge out the muffler because I ride technical areas with long downhills and slow tight trails but as you can see the plug is clean and the bike runs fantastic.

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  3. eric125 Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Mass
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2002 wr 125
    Other Motorcycles:
    2005 yamaha r6
    I picked up some torco gp-7 100% fully synthetic pre mix. I'm going to do a ratio 40:1 mainly cause I ride trails and I don't have high rpms on the trails. I read "spankys jetting guide" and " sponge 101". I guess my biggest concern is adjusting the carb/jets. The terminology makes me nervous. Afraid to blow it up! If there was a video on you tube of how to do it I feel more comfortable. I learn from seeing rather then reading it and second guessing my self. If anyone knows of a video on how to jet can you post it. Thanks for all the help and answers everyone!
  4. PowerKord Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Notheast Ohio
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2008 WR 250 Sold
    Other Motorcycles:
    2014 Sherco SE-R 250
    Torco GP-7 is good stuff. Don't be afraid to experiment with your jetting, there is a lot of performance to be had. Go ahead and use Spanks instructions. Start at the pilot jet, then needle, then main jet.
  5. 500 Hors Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    SAcramento
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 500, 79 390, 13 125, 84 WR 400
    Other Motorcycles:
    tt 500, xr 250 and 500, kdx 200,
    If possible send us a pic of your plug?
    I'm guessing its jetted to rich.
    Do not stress about oil type or ratio, I use 40:1 as it is easy to mix in 5 gallon increments. I Have done 20:1 to 60:1 - nothing in this range is as criritical as proper jetting (literally mixing for 40 yrs).
    Pick a ratio and oil that gives you piece of mind, stick with it and jet accordingly.
    Spooge is not an evil thing (so long as it is not so bad as to clog silencer packing).
    Learn how to jet - u will never regret it!! Yes you can find youtube videos, u should be amazed at how easy it is to do!
    For me 40:1 is used on B, A and AA riders (fast) on 85/105/125/144/200/250 - so 1 to 3 hr racing CC, HS, MX - never a blown motor, that being said learn about top end ends (squish and timing too, if you really want proper performance) - changing them as compression drops by 10% or more. When bikes are raced this can occur in as little as 8 hours (Honda CR85)!
    Again, oil type is hype beyond anything, I too love the smell of caster, still sometimes throw in some 927, but usually run Yamalube because of price. If you really dig into it you will find people running outboard motor oil with fabulous results - I havent ventured there, but likely would if the riders werent on the pipe as much as they are, which leads me to the question of how the bike is being ridden:
    Are you on the pipe more than 50% of the time? Too often the 2 stroke dirt bike is not ridden at a high enough rpm to allow for consistent clean running, are you fouling any plugs? Have you ever changed sprockets to enhace performance for your own riding ability/style? What is your front and rear procket set-up now? Are you ever riding the bike wide open in top gear - if so how often?
    Dont take offense to any of these questions, I just see to many riders copying set-ups that are not allowing them to really enjoy the performance/tuneability of the 2T dirt bike:)
  6. ohmygewd Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    13'Berg FE350, 96'WR360, 01 WR250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Aprilia RSV1000

    Mate...you'll learn from feeling rather than seeing and get use to the terminology!!!

    How to adjust the airscrew, grab a screwdriver, mark one side of the edge and turn that air screw in (clockwise), and count how many times that mark goes around. From factory, it should the set to 1.5 out. What does 'out' mean? Well, if you have the screw all the way 'in', this effectively shuts out the air into the carb circuit...in fact try and start your bike with it all the way in..guess what, it won't start. This is because this little screw controls or regulates the ratio of air to petrol that the carb will receive and is very important if you riding in differing altitudes and temperatures...the higher you go up or hotter it gets, the less air density so your carb needs to breathe more , so you turn it 'out' to allow more air. Very important, this little screw is very sensitive, a 1/4 turn here and there makes a difference!!

    Understand jetting is complicated at first but you must, repeat MUST start to feel what the bike is doing at each part of the throttle (rev range) which are : Idle(0), 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full or WOT (wide open throttle)....sitting there revving the crap of the bike doesn't do nothing but foul a plug. Also, each part of the throttle zone are all connected, if you are too rich (too much petrol) around 0 to 1/4, then from 1/2 to 3/4 will be effected as the bike will not smoothly make this transition as the richness travels through this range until you can clean it out by virtue of engine temperature and air velocity but sometimes, you'll foul a plug as the spark plug cannot generate enough heat due to the build up of a rich (oil) mixture.

    33:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1...It's the ratio of oil and a well tune bike can run any of these ratio's even 70:1 but it's dependent of how you ride....ride 70:1 in the desert or MX track where the motor is revving it's tits off and you will likely seize the bike due to lack of lubrication in the mixture and the opposite in tight technical trail riding, use 33:1 and you are only in 1/4 to 1/2 for 80% of the time and you will likely foul a plug or have a heap of spooge coming out the pipe....my golden rule is that after a good ride, you should have a little bit of spooge, if it's dry then the bike is running too lean (more air than petrol) and in the danger zone of a seizure and if it's too much and it's dribbling like a 1yo baby, the bike is too rich (more petrol than air) and while you probably won't seize the bike, you'll probably start fouling plugs and get frustrated.

    Grab a notepad or sticky note and pen and write down what you feel e.g @1/4 to 1/2 it felt kinda hesitant until 3/4. Also always, ALWAYS write down your settings e.g 1.5 turns out, main jet is a 178 etc etc...if you don't write anything down you will tie yourself in a knot as you don't have a base to start with, nor do you know what the bike felt like before and after a change (helmet cam's are great for this)!!

    I may be coming across as harsh or direct but l and we all share your frustration and fear of the first time in carbs and jetting and all the terminology that comes with it and posting on forums can be daunting when members start asking about needle height, type of needle, type of carb etc etc etc yet every person in this forum is very helpful but you really need to feel what the bike is doing in each rev range before changing this and changing that as this is when the frustration's build and it becomes hard to help you if you yourself don't know what's going on.
  7. BigUtSwede Husqvarna
    C Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2011 txc 449
    Other Motorcycles:
    2006 kx250
    It took me a couple of tries as a first-timer last year to get the jetting right on my 06 kx 250. The guys at my local shop were a great help. I think you would enjoy learning it and there is a special satisfaction with getting it set up just right for the way you ride.