love the kick stand

"@High-Side. Do you have a pic of what you are referring to?"

Of the nub, or the cut off wheel?

If you mean the nub which makes it auto-retract, mine had that removed before I got the bike and it didn't stop it falling over. It did stop the auto-retract but that's only half the battle.

I'm glad you don't have problems, but mine doesn't need the stand to retract in order for it to fall over - it can easily do that even with the stand still down. A slight (and I do mean slight) incline either to the left or right and it will fall - yes it falls either toward the stand or away from it depending on the ground. Quite some design achievement, and not very handy when you're out in the dirt. Had to lean it against a tree again on Sunday after I got fed up of pushing it around trying to find a bit of level enough ground at one stop.

Are the stands on the new SM 610 the same as on your 450?

See photo in post #6. That nub off the hex head (cut off in photo) is the auto retract nub we are talking about.

I haven't seen one yet so I don't know. I believe the TE610 has a different frame to my 450 so the stand would probably be different on that at least to some extent, and the SM would presumably have smaller wheels than the TE so it might be different on the SM610 even to the TE610. I'm sure someone on this forum will know the answer...

450/610, not the same.

Starting to crack!

Anyone find a good after market (and hopefully a tad shorter) kick stand? I've got a hair line crack in mine. Need to make a few I guess!