1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Making new 430/500 auto 1st clutch springs

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by Michel Dufayard, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
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    Some storage has been made !
    On the left , under 50.6. On the right over 51.5 !
  2. PEZBerq Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    390AMX, 430XC, 240WR, 2x510TE, FE501
    Look excellent Michel. Well done for taking the task on!
  3. grouty Auto Lover ...

    Location:
    South West UK
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    78 390WR, 78 390 AMX, 500 Humph
    Other Motorcycles:
    works 73 CCM 520, another 73 CCM520
    Fantastic job !
    Are these different from the 390 ones ?
  4. stormer254 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    England
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    More than I dare let her know
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yes!
    I believe they are
  5. WayneL Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 WR400 88 WR125 84 AE500 &13 WR300
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW R1200GS and R80G/S PD
    Michael

    Well done!

    Pm me with required funds and your preferred method of payment.

    I believe these springs will fit all 360/390/420/500 first gear clutch assembly's . And the 430 liquid cooled with both inner attachment points on the hub.
  6. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    I made these 1st clutch springs for my 500 AE.
    The 1st clutch 430 shoes are the same than on 500.
    Only the hub has more holes on 430 to receive pig tails springs.
    So they can fit on 430.
    They were made to have 51 mm inner lenght.
    But it is hard to have exact lenght.
    Some are 50.6 some are 51.5


    On 360-390-420, I don't know if it works
    I've made some 10-12 shorter springs ( project 50 mm)
    as I've understand they were shorter on 390-420.
    I need to measure all springs producted to know exactly.

    Check how long is the inner lenght to know if they fit.
    Thanks
    Michel
  7. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    Wayne and stormer 254, PM sent. :)
  8. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    I've put all sizes on a sheet.
    0.3 mm seems to be a big difference on paper between 2 springs, but
    on a caliper when you look at , it is really a fly shit.

    430-500 ae springs scan.jpg
  9. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    Hi Wayne
    I've read all old messages.
    Your springs at home are 51mm.
    You wanted 6 springs. Do you want 51 mm or 51.5 ?
    PM also your address.
    Thanks
    Michel
  10. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    Gems in their box ?

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  11. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    nice work... auto owners rejoice:cheers:
  12. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    PM sent to Wayne and stormer 254. :)
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  13. ovlov Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    te610 te410 ae430
    HI Michel , thanks for getting the springs made , can I purchase six springs 51.3 mm long please .
    Am new to the forum and not sure how to PM you my address and arrange payment method . Hope this post reply gets to you .
    Cheers
  14. Hockeylife Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Hi Michel, would like a set of 3 for my 82 axc. Can you let me know how to go ahead, take PayPal? Thanks
  15. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    Ovlov, PM sent in cafe husky inbox ( up and right).
  16. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    Hockeylife: Not sure the 500 ae springs fit 420 ! Are sure they fit, and what lenght are they ?
  17. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Michel,
    I have a 85 500 AE lower end (no cylinder, no head). All springs and shoes are good.
    Will any 500 AE parts work on a 86 430 AE? Springs no, clutch shoes?, drum?
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    I ask because I just bought a 86 430 AE. It runs good. I'm looking for spare parts. Here it is:
    View attachment 60884
  18. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    The best thing is to check with the parts lists between 430 ae and 500 ae.
    The main thing I know is the shaft where there are brass shoes , is longer
    on 500 ae than on 430 ae.
    430 ae
    http://www.yourhusky.com/files/Husqvarna_1986_430_Auto_partsbook.pdf

    500 ae page 108 to 128
    http://www.yourhusky.com/files/84-husky-parts.pdf

    The freewheels différents parts N° but have the same size.
    I think you can put 1st clutch drum , shoes , and springs on
    your 430 ae.

    Anyway, when there's a new part, there's a N in front of the part number
    in the parts list.
  19. fran...k. Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    eastern ct
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    420ae 98wr125 2004wr250 others
    Other Motorcycles:
    electric freeride 1993 yam gts
    The first gear drum and shoes seem the same between the 430 and 500. The crank stub is longer on the 500 hence the stuff associated with that are different. The 500 appears to use the same crank stub as the 420 (which has bronze shoes). The 430 has one needle bearing while the 500 has two on that crank stub. It would to me appear the second and third gear stuff is the same. Some or all of the one way clutches have two per speed where the earlier ones only had one. I suspect those one way clutches which most likely are going to be what is eventually needed as a spare are the same.

    If possible some how that centrifugal clutch on the crankshaft should be balanced. I can see some drilling on the original stuff. That taper on the end of the crank can kind of fuse. Maybe spun balanced like a tire as that stub and the taper it fits to definitely can go bad and unlike the transmission can not be removed cassette style.


    Michael you actually have these springs to sell?
  20. Michel Dufayard Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    France
    Yes I still have some springs.