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125-200cc My second 165 kitted bike and it's the frankenbike...

Discussion in '2 Stroke' started by Motosportz, Dec 7, 2012.

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  1. water racer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    http://www.knoxenduro.com Knoxville, Tennessee
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Beta 250RR
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 Husqvarna WR125 1997 Fantic
    When I used to ride a KTM, spent all efforts trying to make the suspension work as did everyone else that rode them. Motor was rock solid. Switch to Husqvarna and it is all about tuning the motor, no one ever talks about tuning suspension hardly because they already work so well.
    I will take handling over motor anyday, maybe that is why I haven't felt the need to upgrade the 125.
    GP
    water racer, Dec 14, 2012
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  2. Norman Foley Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Trumansburg, NY... The Beautiful, Finger Lakes
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    82 250WR 86 250WR 93 WXE350 03 TE610
    Other Motorcycles:
    '85 Fantic 300 '12 HUSABERG TE250
    The Huskys are just more neutral overall when it comes to rider input, it's intuitive.... you just think where you want to go and you're there. The Berg was the opposite.... you had to force it to your will. I'll have to admit with all the changes I've made to the Berg, it's 90% better. When I first got it, between the bigger motor and handling... I felt more like a passenger than a rider!
    Norman Foley, Dec 14, 2012
    #62

  3. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Thats it right there. The husky 125's feel like an extension of you and you can make it do anything you like. I LOVE that. Crap forks and wrong shock sag setting does not matter still handles better than most anything. 2002-2009-2013, does not matter, handles better than anything. NO bike for me handles as good or brings so many smiles to my face. I just gold valved the forks on my 04 and it took it to the next level without the forks deflecting off everything. I am one shock re-valve away from having my perfect bike.
    Motosportz, Dec 14, 2012
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  4. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    BTW got a quick ride on her yesterday with the stock carb back on. The APT for sure has more bottom end, more roll on power, better throttle response and overall power. I rejetted the stock carb and got it running about as good as it can, crisp and pulls nice everywhere. If I had never used the APT I would think it is near perfect but after that APT know better and that there is performance the stock carb leaves on the table. The stock carb is fine and works good, the APT is simply better.

    Lectron carb test coming up, lets see where it stacks up.

    BTW here are my jetting specs for my particular (but semi odd ball build) 165 for reference...

    DJ-60 needle in one lean from middle position (that cleared up some mid range sluggishness i had)
    37.5 pilot
    390 main (up one and gained some top end)
    3 slide

    runs nice bottom to top with no issues and pulls hard.

    APT has more bottom, more throttle response, more power everywhere and a smoother liquid feel to it.
    Motosportz, Dec 14, 2012
    #64

  5. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    Did you feel it pulled farther in the top end with the smart carb or because it was better everywhere else it doesn't matter? Just looking for comparison feel for when I test it with the fatty and HGS.
    wallybean, Dec 14, 2012
    #65

  6. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Hard to tell as I don't ride bouncing off the rev limiter. I am a bottom and mid range guy. I did go bigger on the main on the stock carb after the APT had so much more top and did gain top but think the APT still has more. Carb on the way to you tomorrow as well as my 125 cylinder n stuff.
    Motosportz, Dec 14, 2012
    #66

  7. wallybean Mini-Sponsor

    Location:
    Montana
    Thanks Kelly. I am going to do runs with the gps doing speed tests. I am also going to do some different spring tests with the sc to see is the improved carburation allows more flexibility with governor springs. I can also say that unless I am on a road or fast wash the bike will never be in the extreme top end......OK....I am slow. :rolleyes:
    wallybean, Dec 14, 2012
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  8. water racer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    http://www.knoxenduro.com Knoxville, Tennessee
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Beta 250RR
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 Husqvarna WR125 1997 Fantic
    Cool thing about the Husqvarna, it is possible to have a 125 with a 144 and 165 cylinder sitting on the shelf. Depending on your mood or riding conditions you can transform your bike in about an hour!
    water racer, Dec 15, 2012
    #68

  9. water racer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    http://www.knoxenduro.com Knoxville, Tennessee
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 Beta 250RR
    Other Motorcycles:
    2009 Husqvarna WR125 1997 Fantic
    Of course if you have any insecurity issues get the KTM so you can be like everyone else. Don't have to worry if someone is staring at you or your bike!!
    water racer, Dec 15, 2012
    #69

  10. firffighter Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Estacada, Oregon
    Hehe! Well, I've been riding a Gasgas for about 3 seasons, so you can imagine the looks and have to continually answer "What the heck is a Gasgas!"
    firffighter, Dec 15, 2012
    #70

  11. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    GP, your right on that one! Maybe Kelly and Walt grew up playing with Transformer Toys!

    Kelly, bike looks good and like the blue graphics!
    dartyppyt, Dec 15, 2012
    #71

  12. steadydirt Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Ontario
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2007 2002 wr 250 1994 wxe 250
    Other Motorcycles:
    fj 1100 cb500 cb350 rt 200 xs 650
    Any chance you had it on a set of scales?
    steadydirt, Dec 15, 2012
    #72

  13. CelticDude Historically Fast!

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    Well, I've ridden with Walt and he isn't as slow as he might lead you to think! One of those guys you size up before the ride and let him lead through a tight section of single track. Then you come out into the open and find he hasn't even left you a dust trail to follow! :eek: Can't wait to hear his assessment of the APT carb. :cheers:
    CelticDude, Dec 15, 2012
    #73

  14. Kevin_TE250 Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Boise Idaho
    Walt is a lot of things.. Slow is not one of them....
    Kevin_TE250, Dec 15, 2012
    #74

  15. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    I will do that but it makes no difference as it makes all other bikes feel like a XR650 no matter what it weights. The small crank and no reciprocating mass is the key here. My last two rides have been pure bliss. In the zone type riding. Did a ride in super tight stuff and with two guys that are A riders and typically faster than me. Had no problem staying right on their back tire when following and actual was gaping them some when leading. Was a great feeling and i was "In the zone' all day and could do no wrong. The 165 motor and the gold valve forks have transformed an already super fun bike into a lethal weapon. Yesterday was 36 miles of frozen ground in 28 degree weather with 2-5 inches of snow and snowing the entire time and the bike still ruled and was a freaking blast. Fun stuff.
    Motosportz, Dec 16, 2012
    #75

  16. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Thats because he turned on another trail and you spend the next 15 minutes looking for walto :lol: Inside joke to some extent after we kept loosing Walt at Moab.
    Motosportz, Dec 16, 2012
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  17. Kevin_TE250 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Boise Idaho

    NW Husky Gathering Number 2:

    Me and Mitch (to Kelly : You haven't seen Walt have you? .. We've Lost Walt
    Kelly : Well of course you have !
    Kevin_TE250, Dec 16, 2012
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  18. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    like an old lovable dog that keeps wandering off. :D
    Motosportz, Dec 16, 2012
    #78
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  19. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    I bought 2 KTM 200 SX SST pipes and a FMF muffler for a song on eBay. I'll get one setup and let Blake try it as he like 125 power characteristics and top end and that's what these are for. They are a little beat but will only get more so. Will report back.
    Motosportz, Dec 17, 2012
    #79

  20. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Update:

    Bike is in continuous upgrade mode it seems. Landed a nice used 3.6 gallon IMS tank that is actually slimmer than stock and carries the gas way low. Nice. Added Fastway footpegs that really offer a lot of control especially in the wet muddy nasty stuff. Also added a new throttle cable (smooth) and FMF powercore SA muffler. This bike is one shock revalve away from pure bliss. Fun.
    Motosportz, Dec 17, 2012
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