1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

MY2013 TE511 Clutch not disengaging.

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by turtlemoye, Jan 16, 2014.

  1. Big Timmy Husqvarna
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    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    I'd take it and ride it anyway. Both of the clutches in my TC449 and BMW G450X engines always drag a little bit. You think thats dragging. My old Maico's would wheelstand in first gear with the clutch pulled in all the way if you goosed it.
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  2. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    Adjustment on the lever, little thumb wheel.
  3. turtlemoye Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE511, TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 BMW 1200GSA
    Yeah, that didn't help either. I'll pull the clutch cover off in the next day or two and see what I can find.
  4. turtlemoye Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE511, TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 BMW 1200GSA
    Well I'm relieved and feel like a idiot at the same time. I let the oil get good and hot both before and after the oil change and even road about 15 miles of stop and go (ie, lots of shifting) the other day with no improvement. Today I let the bike warm up for about 10 mins and the clutch worked with out any issues.:banghead: Frustrated that I missed my ride but glad it seems to fine now.
  5. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    Well that's great news! Maybe the plates were just stuck together like Kelly suggested earlier? Keep the 0W40 in there and you should be smooth sailing from here out. :D
  6. Big Timmy Husqvarna
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    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    I told you before, I'd take it out and ride it anyway. It probably would have been fine after a bit of abuse and you probably missed a good ride.
  7. Motosportz CH Sponsor

    Location:
    Vancouver WA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 TE250i, 570 Berg, 500 KTM, 790R
    Other Motorcycles:
    many
    I have had older bikes stuck hard before. Sometimes you can get the to break free by riding them with the clutch in and gassing it many times. Sometimes you have to pull them apart physically. Usually take many months of years of sitting for this condition to happen though.
  8. turtlemoye Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE511, TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 BMW 1200GSA
    Kelly, I'm having the same problem again and still trying to figure it out. Per the service manual this adjustment is only for the reach of the lever. I tried adjusting it anyway with no improvement. Do you think that it should make a difference?
  9. huskylove Husqvarna
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    Location:
    norcal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1999 cr125 in progress
    I have recently tried to tackle this on my bike. IF i pick my feet up it will move about 1mph when cold, once hot it seems fine, but idling in gear does bring the rpm down slightly.

    SO, I rebled the clutch and it feels a bit better, but issue still remains.

    When cold if you try starting in gear with clutch pulled it will move the bike forward.

    I have decided it is the nature of the beast.
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  10. 9880sts Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Boronia Victoria
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE511 2013
    Other Motorcycles:
    GAS GAS EC 300 2006
    With all my adjustments i made , i was out yesterday and rode for about 2hrs.
    My clutch is dragging hard when the bike is cold. Also the lever feel changes when the Oil gets hot.
    I have accepted it and just live with it. I have tried 0w40 Oil and all sort of stuff.
    i made sure the Clutch plates installed just the right way ( Oil gallery ) holes etc.
    I bleed my cylinder several times with no change .Its the nature of the beast. I can live with it.
    i am back to 5w40 Motul 300V and wont change again.
  11. turtlemoye Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE511, TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 BMW 1200GSA
    Here's a question for everyone. When I remove the cap to the clutch reservoir the rubber gasket on the lid is blown up like a ballon. I fill the reservoir, replace the cap and quite a bit of the brake fluid is forced out due being displaced by the inflated lid. Is this normal? I can push the air out with my finger but it instantly returns to the inflated state. I wonder if I'm loosing too much fluid due to this.

    I just can't accept that this is normal. Can anyone else comment that they infact don't have this issue?
  12. underwatersimon Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Pictou Co. Nova Scotia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 Beta 350rr
    My bike doesn't like to start in gear but not enough drag to move the bike forward.
    I can be stopped with the clutch in and not even a bump forward.
    Not normal and not safe in my opinion.

    That soft rubber bit is common on most bikes but would need a pic to call it normal or not.
    I'm no mechanic but I would be looking at 2 things.

    1 - Am I loosing pressure on the actuation side? Worng fluid, bad hose, connection, or seal between lever and motor.
    2 - Propper installation and condition of clutch plates and springs.

    Again, definately not the nature of my beast and it's been well used and abused.
    I've even drowned it in the middle of nowhere, dismantled and flipepd it over to get water out of the top end, put it back together and rode another 50-60km of nastiness to get back to the truck. The stuff boiling out of that motor at the end of the day did not even remotely resemble anything oil like.
    That day had me scared and really questioning my decision to buy this bike in the first place (considering rebuild costs) but after a thorough cleaning, many oil changes, and a load more miles it is still running strong.
  13. huskylove Husqvarna
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    Location:
    norcal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1999 cr125 in progress
    Mine has done it since new like I said and nothing corrects it. What we need is an aftermarket slave cyl with a smaller diameter (more travel) and better sealing ring or dual rings. This would help tremendously.

    Always drags quite hard in gear clutch in cold, better when hot, but hard to find neutral still.
  14. N4544D Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Orange County CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE449 sold, 2018 TX 300 sold
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 250 XCW, KTM 500 XCF-W
    I get very slight drag when in gear but can still hot and cold start with clutch pulled in while in gear. Something is not adjusted correctly. I only felt a difference in engagement points (between hot and cold oil) when I used the MME clutch lever. No difference with stock lever with my bike.
  15. turtlemoye Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE511, TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 BMW 1200GSA
    The screws that hold the cap on are included for reference.

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  16. Big Timmy Husqvarna
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    Location:
    (South Eastern) AZ.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 FE 501 with lots of goodies.
    Other Motorcycles:
    BMW G450X, 15'FE501, 23 KTM 1290 SAR
    This looks like something has deteriorated it to the point of it going bad. I would replace it for sure and change out the fluid. Its hardly recognizable compared to mine.
  17. underwatersimon Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Pictou Co. Nova Scotia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2015 Beta 350rr
    I agree. Some fluids will destroy rubber bits in a quick hurry. I've had to rebuild more than one break system because someone figured one was as good as another.
    I'd check the parts diagram to see what other rubber bits may also be at risk if this is indeed the case.
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  18. Tinken Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Hesperia, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    MY12 WR511
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha
    I've seen this many times. It would appear that someone put the wrong fluid in your reservoir. You can only use dot fluids in dot systems and you can only use mineral oil in mineral oil systems. Mix and match and the reservoir rubber will look exactly like yours. I swapped out mine for Motorex 5.1, completely pumping the entire system through. It is unfortunate, but you may be changing out all your hydraulic seals. Try purging your line first and see if it helps. :(

    As far as the clutch goes, slight drag when hot is normal, there is only one spring used and it doesn't have a huge throw. The clutch requires a cSt viscosity close to 3 to operate properly and this is why the 0W40/5W40 oils works so well. 50/60W oils usually do not drop below 8cSt and therefore drag is increased.

    http://www.amazon.com/Motorex-DOT-B...5&sr=8-2&keywords=motorex dot 5.1 brake fluid
  19. turtlemoye Husqvarna
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    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE511, TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    2016 BMW 1200GSA
    Possibly but I'm the only one that has touched it other than the dealer. I could only find Castrol Dot 4 which is what I used. Now I may have mixed it myself with whatever was in there from the factory.
  20. lankydoug Husqvarna
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    Location:
    MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR
    Other Motorcycles:
    TM 300en
    Wrong fluid, your flex hoses and slave cyl. seals are going to be ruined as well. You have to replace every rubber part and flush with brake cleaner before assembling it with the new seals and hoses or the residue will contaminate the fluid again and cause the same problem all over again.