Need to re-moss after de Restriction?

Discussion in 'TR650' started by NorthnTerraTory, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. snail_72 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Cairns Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR 650
    My bike is at the shop now But is waiting on the throttle cable holderm az it has not come in yet. i have no idea when my bike will be done. As soon as i know i will give an up date.
  2. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    When I de-restricted mine (sold to me as an unrestricted) it's quite a work-up, requiring the throttle body to be removed to fit the shorter L bracket, & the throttle cable to the smaller radius pulley

    MOSS was not available (then or now)

    Apparently the ECU "reset" is an "urban myth" dating from the early BMW's

    There are a number of throttle response "improvers" I'm currently using the AF-XIED, not perfect, however much better than the stock fuelling
  3. Muddler Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TDM900, DRZ400
    Snail, did you get your bike sorted?
  4. DeLewis Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    I'm trying to get a mate's bike derestricted as well and could not get any clear advice from any shop near me as to whether they need to hook up the bike up to the computer as well as replacing the throttle plate.

    However, I just spoke to 'Vic' at the Paul Feeney Group here in Oz (importers/distributors of Huskies until KTM took over) and he was adamant that the only difference with the restricted bikes is the throttle plate ie. The only restriction is mechanical and no software update is necessary for full power. His advice seems to back up your experience EK9 if I read your comment correctly. I guess I'll find out soon enough.

    The info that I got from one of the bike shops is that the KTM system they're using is EX1(?) which can do diagnostics on our bikes but no reprogramming. Whereas the OSS (according to Paul Feeney Group) is a BMW system and therefore nothing to do with KTM. If that is the case, it is hardly surprising that very few dealers are stumping up for the OSS access when it is only useful for older Huskies.
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  5. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    Dahlitz motorcycles in Canberra, updated to the latest firmware, l've been working with WayneC, currently l have 3D printer airfilter, Pulstar plugs, Dyna Booster (which l'm slowly winding back from 12 turns) GPR Single can exhaust, 22,000 klms - plus the suspension mods with Terry Hay at Shock Treatment
    Possibly the best it will be
    Now the battery is getting "tired"
    Bloody bmw !
  6. snail_72 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Cairns Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR 650
    yes i did.. but now i get a random EFI fault every now and a gain.. um.. say when at the lights and i take off and give it some not red lining or any thing like that just a good rev to about 6g's through the gears some times the EFI light will come on and stall the bike till the engine goes under 1000RMP or cuts out all together. its really f@#*ken dangerous. my bike has just come out of it 2 year warranty 06.10.2015 and waiting for the shop to get the KTM cable for the red husky's so we can see whats going on. I was waiting to get this fixed before i did a wright up and reply but that's where i'm at. still love the bike every red hair has her moments.
  7. Muddler Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    TDM900, DRZ400
    How do you find the throttle responsiveness now?
  8. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    Mine developed a stumble & flatness on throttle opening immediately after starting plus stalling at the first corner - I got around this with a simple starting proceedure - start the motor, let in run for one or two minutes, then stop it, then start again & ride-off
    Occasionally the engine will misfire just for an instant for no apparent reason
    WayneC seems to think that the battery is on it's way out - possible as the BMW batteries are not top quality
  9. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    After the latest firmware update I noticed that l needed more throttle before the ecu would change from closed to open loop on acceleration
  10. snail_72 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Cairns Queensland Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Tr 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    KLR 650

    I think it was a little better but it took 6 weeks to get the job done so i couldn't "feel/tell" the difference. after doing a few rides on the same run as before it was de-restricted i could tell there was a big difference.
  11. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    I made a quick action throttle
  12. TERRA-STORM Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    NSW-AUSTRALIA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 TERRA
    I've recently had my bike updated at Dahlitz also, a quick action throttle sounds interesting?
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  13. WayneC Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar
  14. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    Actually easy to do - l cut a narrow section of pvc pipe & glued to the cable pulley, effectively increasing the radius by 3.00mm- instant quick action at virtually no cost - that's at the twist grip
  15. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Do you have any photos of this? I am having trouble envisioning what you've done. Thanks
  16. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Which size PVC ?
  17. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100

    Cut a 6mm wide ring from a 25mm pvc pipe, then cut across to allow it to open up & slide onto the existing throttle cable sheave, glue in place & trim to ensure smooth operation within twist grip body - fit it as close to cable nipple as possible

    This simple mod increases the radius by about 3 mm - using "pye" remember from school? 3.142 times the diameter is the circumference of the circle

    The bigger the diameter the quicker the throttle, it'll be a little heavier, but not enough to notice

    Less expensive than buying a "quick-action" twist grip
  18. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Thank you. It's a great idea.
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  19. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    Yeah, that seems simple enough. Think I'll go have some pi.
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