New Owner- Definitive Airbox Answer?

Discussion in 'TR650' started by mcalistr, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Is it still possible to get the Errol's frame?
    Is there a step-by-step from Errol/Enginia that shows all the mods that he did? or did i just totally freakin miss it?
    Thanks
  2. sussurf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Port Macquarie area, NSW
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint 1050, Daytona 955i
    Engenia is on this forum.
    I know a local recently got the frames from him but had to install them himself.
    He had to buy the special polypropelene glue to do it.
    You'll also need the Unifilter.
  3. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Great, thanks sussurf! I'll send him a PM
  4. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Engenia has not been on CH since 9/15, according to his profile. Yikes!
    I sent a PM anyway. If anyone knows how to get in touch with him, please let him know there are more people(me at least) looking for a frame.
    Thanks!!
  5. sussurf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Port Macquarie area, NSW
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint 1050, Daytona 955i
    He is around still but rides alot and has another exotic bike he's working his brilliance on I believe.
  6. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I sent him a PM in early January and didn't get a response. Sure would like to get one of those frames.
  7. Mark_H Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Lapu Lapu Cebu Philippines
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TR 650 Strada; 2015 Nuda 900R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda XRM 125, Kawasaki Curve 115
    I did not really choose any of these options, but the closest to mine is option 1.
    I did not 'do nothing' but I did check the airbox for internal condition several times and found no problem with the original filter and now a K&N in the original holder.
    Using a USB Snake Cam still shows no evidence of a problem serious enough to cause me to worry about my airbox condition despite operating the bike in some extremely dusty traffic conditions.
  8. Johnn Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Newcastle Hunter Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    T4 Moto Guzzi
    He is still around. He sealed up and installed the 3D frame in my air-box about eight weeks ago. PM him.

    I'm sure it's not his day job, so I was pleased when he sealed and installed the frame, for what I thought was a nominal amount. A pleasure to deal with.

    I tend to agree with Mark H about doing nothing if it found to be OK. My opinion is it's a quality control issue, not a design problem with the caveat that the design should have allowed for real world manufacturing tolerances. Riding around town I could not find any indications of the problem. But that was around town and on sealed roads.

    I modified mine, as the first real dirt I hit could be for hundreds of kilometres and the potential for damage in a short amount of time was not worth the risk.
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  9. spiderman Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Decatur, IL
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    07 KLR650 07 Bandit1250 85 Rokon
    I was able to get in contact with Engenia and he said he hasn't been getting email notifications of his PMs. Got that fixed so now you can get in touch with him. He's making a frame for me and I'm really looking forward to getting it installed.
  10. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    I got a PM from him this morning with his email info. Woohoo. A frame is in the works. Thanks everyone!!
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  11. sussurf Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Port Macquarie area, NSW
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Triumph Sprint 1050, Daytona 955i
  12. Clete Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Tigard, OR
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    '01 CR/WR 250, '13 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    '06 Suzuki SV650 (gone)
    Some good peeps on CH :thumbsup:
  13. Kenneth Webb Livin' It Up!

    Location:
    Tucson AZ
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TE630 TR650 Terra TE310R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Yamaha WR250R, GoldWing, Africa Twin
    Engenia is definitely alive and kicking because he recently finished and delivered my filter frame to me here in Tucson. It's installed and working great now. Being able to quickly access the filter is terrific, and my next step is to try to find a filter sock for the new setup. If you get Engenia working on your parts, just be patient as he has a lot on his plate. I had to wait quite a while to get my parts but was happy to do it as the results are worth it.
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  14. engineerk9 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Narrabeen
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Kawasaki ZRX1100
    Chuck's wipes make great filter socks
  15. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
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  16. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    That's pretty much all subjective. Got any of the screen captures or pics of the throttle inside?

    For me, as a rule, if I look at a car or bike to purchase and see a KN filter on it I generally walk away.

    When I did the Pod mod video, that bike had 8k and a KN filter. The airbox and throttle body were packed with dirt. When he moved, he offered the bike to me for $3.5k, which is a good price for a Terra, but because of the dirt in the engine, there is no way I wanted that bike for anything more scrap prices.
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  17. Next Strada Demolitionist

    Location:
    Brevard, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    I think every bike is a little different. I personally have a K&N that I sealed the filter housing with RTV and check it when I clean it--had the bike since new. The filter gets packed with dirt, and I clean it every 2k miles and/or when it looks like mud on the cotton (which is often).

    I have opened my airbox and it has been pretty darn clean both times, throttle body was fine too. I tried scoping it but couldn't really tell what was up, nor could I get the scope to peek into the throttle body--I think you have to crack open the box to really know. The filter works well enough in this application. I have 8.5k miles, last time I checked the airbox was about 6k miles--last year before the big trips.

    All that said, I recently decided to just do the Pod Mod and be done. I LOVE the bike and want to keep it a long time. The Pod Mod is cheap insurance and will leave me without worry on some of the longer off road excursions I do each year. At the back of my mind, despite having opened the airbox twice and it being clean I worry about it. $40 is a cheap price to pay to stop the worrying.
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  18. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    Today I went and cleaned my pod mod pre filter

    You tell me what you think you can get away with. This is about 1,000 miles worth about 50/50 dirt/tar. I clean the uni pod once every two pre filter changes, but I think I could go 3 pre filters as the uni is very clean, and zero dirt in the throttle body.


    Prefilter mesh
    terra-prefilter3.jpg

    New element vs slightly used, very coarse and it started to clog up.
    terra-prefilter2.jpg
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  19. Next Strada Demolitionist

    Location:
    Brevard, NC
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Hey Mag, what are using for the pr-filter? A scrub pad, or an actual filter medium? Do you oil it? Hoping to do my Pod Mod this weekend--though I was sent a 135 degree being pipe by accident. Returning it to Amazon today and ordered another (of the same) 90 degree. Hoping I get the right product this time :)
  20. mag00 Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Tucson
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra, Strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    XR250 R1100RS CH50
    Scrubby pad from the 99ยข only store. They come in a 3 pac, red whit and blue. They are a touch narrow, so I strip down another and have 2 pieces. I oil with uni foam filter oil. I have some UNI foam, but that is just too fine and would instantly clog up, so this coarse stuff works well. I can carry an oiled one in a zippy bag if I go on longer trips. I could put a layer of uni foam under the coarse scrubby and that would be a far better setup than the KN filter in the stock holder, even without the pod filter mod, but may restrict airflow some.

    The wire mesh could be anything that has a rigidity to it. I bent a 90 at the top to keep it from flexing. The other 3 sides have support.

    The pad is about 3/4 inch thick and the dirt goes in quite a ways, not just a top layer. I can't imagine what the 3d mod uni filter would look like in my riding conditions, and for those who use that setup, I would highly suggest a snorkel "coarse pre-filtler" to extend service time on the uni.

    And I forgot to mention that I do have some extra holes in the front of my airbox under the paneling, so if I was totally sealed, there is just no way I could use the uni or kn and be happy. I usually go solo riding, so it's not like I'm following a dust storm either.