Old TE/TC/TXC 449-511 Dealer release info

DM some of our rides are into towns that no longer have fuel and if they do it comes out of jerry cans and $3.00 litre F......................CK THAT I would rather carry the extra weight in my back pack. We have some pretty awesome rides . I normally ride into a Town called Noojee have a feed at the OUTPOST or Noojee Pub and on week ends heaps of bikes ,road and trail also car clubs its pretty awesome. Have a look it's a pretty amazing place simple but relaxing.

The sales guide sheets you have posted list horsepower and not brake horsepower, so there is no difference between exhaust systems. Only the TXC's listed are from the United States, all others are world wide. I posted the full sales guide as well as others in the ZipTy directory if you wish to read completely.

What????

Horsepower listed was measured at the crankshaft.

Correct, but it still would have had an exhaust system on it and I would assume to be fair, it would be the one for the bike as listed.
I.e. The La-fat-tony cat type or at least the Akro.... Not sure what you meant by your exhaust statement?

i would also suggest that the competition's figures quoted would be taken at the engine also.
I don't think the KTM/Honda etc of the day would pull those numbers at the wheel either.

Apples against apples in this case

US only TXC is listed the same as the TE. That's why I didn't put them up.

No, they clearly didn't dyno with the huge Lafarconni on nor did they use oem mapping. They would of used an open exhaust tube that was mounted in their test facility across all of the engines. The differences in hp are from mechanical only. In order to achieve 51hp at the crankshaft from a TE511, they would have had to of used a wide open map. The TE511 (with oem mapping) produces approximately 33bhp at the rear tire, TE449 is 29bhp. 33*1.2=39.6hp at the crank. 39.6hp does not equal 51.

So you're saying they diliberately falsified their advertising stating an amount of engine power with an exhaust as listed.
And the competitions bikes weren't, so not usefull as a comparison.

Fair enough then.