PCV with Zip Ty map

Discussion in 'TR650' started by Baddrapp, Nov 3, 2015.

  1. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    I still have to setup a fuel mileage map for the highways. I just received my map switch.
  2. danketchpel Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Camarillo, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    Terra 650
    Other Motorcycles:
    Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Beta
    If I recall the accell pump values I have are what Dynojet recommended. I started with it and it felt OK so I left it alone. I haven't tried different values for that to be honest. That was kinda a wild analogy but I get what you're trying to say.

    I will try your numbers and see how it feels.

    I get the issue with the autotune, it's kinda too bad as I like running closed circuit (ie AT enabled).

    It appears what's needed is a way to limit the AT's response to quick changes (ie accell pump). Like a setting that anything less than 5-10 seconds is ignored. This way it would not get upset and act more like a smoothing/correction feature.

    I think I'm going to try running with the AT disabled for a bit and see how much difference I can notice.

    I REALLY wish it was possible to just reprogram the base map tables like I do on my Guzzi, Triumph, and Ducati. That is so much better than mucking about with piggy back solutions. But this is still far better than a simple spoofer.
  3. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
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    OK, I really have no idea what I'm doing but have tried to follow Tinker's advice.

    If anyone can help that would be great!

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  4. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    I did notice my AFR went from around 12.5 to 13.4 while at idle.
  5. Roger 04 RT Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 (friend's)
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 BMW R1150RT
    Can you explain that some more?

    At idle the AFR should be steadier than that once the engine is warmed up.
  6. Baddrapp Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Yucca Valley
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    My lap top decided to fry itself. I am not able to get a screen shot of my map. I will post one as soon as I can get a laptop.
  7. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Did some tuning this weekend and without knowing much about how to set the map up myself I went back to the auto tune. AT comes set at AFR of 13.2 across the board so I reset to 13.5 for most if the table except for start /idle range where I set to 12.9.

    Bike ran a lot better and didn't seem to be as rich as prior setting. I will save the map it created but will try an AFR of 13.7 next trip out. I suspect I will see improved power from this.
  8. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Roger, it didn't fluctuate between those AFR's it was just the difference between previous map and the one I posted. Previous map was the stock setup from PC.
    I would really like to put this bike on a dyno for tuning but there are none close to me that I know of.
  9. Roger 04 RT Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 (friend's)
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 BMW R1150RT
    I think you can set auto tune to wait for a period of time after starting, before making autotune adjustments. If you can I would set that time to be long enough for the engine to fully warm up. This is important because your ECU has various enrichments for starting, immediately after starting and during warmup.

    An idle AFR of 13.5 to 13.8 usually works quite well once the engine is warm.

    For the rest of the map I would try 13.5 or 13.8 below half throttle tapering from there to 12.9 at WOT.

    You probably don't need a dyno but don't accept large fueling swings from row to row or column to column. For example is you see -15 next to a +18 ask yourself if that seems right.
  10. tork Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Thanks for the input. I have the auto tune set to 2 minutes and always start up a few minutes for warm up.

    From what I understand about it, the trim levels should set themselves after they have been run in at each RPM range based on programed AFR. Correct? So I'm thinking if I just save these each time, at different AFR's I should be able to create the map that works best for me.

    Would you say not to go Leaner than 13.8 at up to around the mid range?

    From what I have read 14.7 is ideal for maximum performance. Probably not best for a long lasting engine.
  11. Roger 04 RT Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 (friend's)
    Other Motorcycles:
    2004 BMW R1150RT
    Read more. Google Best Power Mixture.
  12. BRUISER Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 TERRA
    Other Motorcycles:
    HONDA 1800 GOLDWING
    If you don't like the loss of engine braking with the std PCV map try changing the 0 throttle setting to -100 from 2000 to 8000 RPM, fixed mine.
  13. BRUISER Husqvarna

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 TERRA
    Other Motorcycles:
    HONDA 1800 GOLDWING
    If you have trouble with loss of engine braking set 0 throttle to -100 from 2000 to 8000 RPM, worked for me after talking to Dynojet today.