Petition for urgent ECU/MAP update - Husqvarna 650 Random Low Speed Stall

Discussion in 'TR650' started by kiwiape, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. DBHUSKY Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650 strada
    Your complaint number : 10788508
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  2. WayneC Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Sydney
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    none
    Other Motorcycles:
    F650GS Dakar
    Updated complaint list

    01/ 10780424 ZH0H12A6EV0 Seatle
    02/ 10730973 ZKHOH12A9DV Mt Desert
    03/ 10622575 WB10194098X Mill Valley
    04/ 10622566 WB10194098X Mill Valley
    05/ 10621506 ZKH0H12A9DV Location Unk
    06/ 10620773 ZKH0H12A0DV Ridgecrest
    07/ 10617574 ZKH0H12B1DV Southern Pines
    08/ 10616373 ZKH0H12A2DV Decatur
    09/ 10630327 ZKH0H12A7EV Fayetteville
    10/ 10787458 ZKH0H12A3DV Craig Hashey
    11/ 10627338 ZKH0H12A2DV Bakersfield CA
    12/ 10618382 ZKH0H12A1DV Ashville NC
    13/ 10617568 ZKH0H11C6DV APO AE
    14/ 10615977 ZKH0H12A0DV Unknown
    15/ 10786180 ZKH0H12A0EV Lake Forest CA
    16/ 10626489 ZKH0H12A7EV Cherry Valley IL
    17/ 10787535 ZKHOH12A9DV Mt Desert ME - John Sweet
    18/ 10787434 ZKH0H12A1DV ASHEVILLE, NC
    19/ 10785842 zkh0h12b8dv LONG BEACH, CA
    20/ 10780424 ZH0H12A6EV0 SEATTLE, WA
    21/ 10788508 DBHusky

    DBHusky complaint not yet showing up on NHTSA System, text file with complaint details attached for you all

    Attached Files:

  3. wade171 Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    650 strada
    Other Motorcycles:
    no
    I knew 1 person replaced crank sensor, corrected the problem, i ordered 1 for mind
  4. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)

    I don't see mine in there either? I filed the complaint at least a year ago. Edit...there I am, Fayetteville
  5. DBHUSKY Husqvarna
    B Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    tr650 strada

    I just checked the site again and my complaint is not on there. I checked my email and they received it (#10788508) but it has to be reviewed by NHTSA technical staff THEN entered into the database. FYI.
  6. johnsweet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Desert, Maine 04660 USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 790R RickmanZ BulsSherpaTs350
    I just got off the phone with Kevin @ https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml asking if anything has been done yet. I asked to be allowed to speak with one of the engineers who are supposedly looking into this problem, he said no unless they have a question for you. Told him about AU and CA recalls. Need more people to call. What's up in EU?
  7. cc'er Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Canyon Country, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    FE570S, Harley R-G
    complaint number 10790572
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  8. drzcharlie Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Fayetteville, Arkansas with my Redheaded Mistress
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    Burgman 650 (The Barcolounger)
    How about a phone contact number. I will gladly bug em.
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  9. johnsweet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Desert, Maine 04660 USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 790R RickmanZ BulsSherpaTs350

    yes the more people that bug em the better! NTSHL phone number is: 1-888-327-4237, or you can click on this link to File a Vehicle Safety Complaint at https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/ If you do the 5 step form you will still be contacted, I think the direct phone conversation is best because it's recorded and a case file number is issued for each call.
  10. Garneau Weld Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    I own a TR650 Strada. I love it! The build, materials, looks are all great. I receive compliments all the time from all age groups. (have new seat (ouch on old one), wish it had a 6th and the forks SUCK!!) Did 5,000 miles from Mexican boarder to Eureka, CA and I mean everything in-between. Could have died multiple times while turning around on dirt roads with a 1,000ft+ drop on the Lost Coast and in Big Sur. Also, taking-off from the front of the line on Wilshire, Santa Monica or Sunset at 4:30pm on a Friday afternoon could be lethal. Literally looking backward, when my engine died, is the only action that prevented my rush hour, involuntary cremation. (I road a R100GS and a XR600R all over the desert and cities and neither bike stopped once unless I was at fault. NOT ONCE!!, warm-ups excluded!) The only time a bike of mine died unexpectedly was during a road race when my friend road up next to me and flicked my kill switch while under power and entering a turn. Yes, I could have crashed. He thought it was funny, and I was confused. Why! So, anyway, that's what my TR is doing to me now. It's happened over one-hundred times and my confidence level is dropping on this machine. I certainly do not want to die due to a mechanical/electrical defect after so many years of getting it right in completion and on the track. BRIGHT IDEAS!? - Why doesn't KTM do a great and CORRECT re-map and then do a through-the-mail exchange? Also, guys at the track were re-mapping ECU's, with their laptops, almost twenty years ago. Isn't there a pigtail interface for direct re-mapping. Any encryption would have to be released at this point! I feel better now! Thanks!! One TR nut, Garneau Weld
  11. Thumpa Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    san francisco bay area, california usa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR 650 Terra
    Other Motorcycles:
    CCM Dakar, G650X
    Garneau, welcome to the cafe. Sounds like an epic adventure of sorts. But as you clearly stated, every outing can be conceived as an adventure where the stalling issue is concerned. You will find plenty of well documented information here to support the concerns and pro activity of resolving the 'death stall'. I would seriously encourage you to petition the NHTSA clearly outlining your experiences with these concerns, as many members have done so. Due to such actions a recall of the TR's has been issued for Canada. We can only hope America will follow suit.
    To date the most satisfactory results have been outlined in the thread 'Silver Bullet'. Where the upgrade to Pulstar plugs and larger injector seem to have cured the ill's of the above characteristics. But we are now finding that BMW dealerships, where willing. Have the capability to revise to latest firmware. The latest firmware also targets the lean stall issue. Like many of us here, we know we have an excellent platform of potential in the TR. The tricky part is navigating the support, or lack thereof to obtain optimum performance. For one, i believe it will be a worthwhile investment of energy in the end. You might also look into GS-911 also documented in these threads as it's development includes TR capability.
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  12. hasenpfeffer Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    CO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650 Strada
    Canadian TR650 owners with stalling issues

  13. johnsweet Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Mount Desert, Maine 04660 USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    TR650
    Other Motorcycles:
    KTM 790R RickmanZ BulsSherpaTs350
    USA RECALL, Yes I did receive this, keep pinching myself. Here it is: NHTSA Campaign Number is 16V124000, Components: Engine and engine cooling, Number of units affected 1015.

    Summary: KTM North America, Inc. is recalling certain model year 2013-2014 Husqvarna TR650 Terra and Strada motorcycles manufactured Jan 1, 2012 to Dec 31, 2013 The affected motorcycles may unexpectedly stall.
    Consequence: A stall increases the rick of a crash.
    Remedy: The remedy for this recall is still under development. The manufacture has not yet provided a notification schedule. Owners may contact KTM customer service at 1-440-985-3553.
    Notes: Owners may also contact the NHTSA Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 or go to www.safercar.gov
    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners...getCategory=R&searchCriteria.nhtsa_ids=16V124