1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

Plating ?

Discussion in 'Vintage/Left Kickers' started by dartyppyt, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
    Thanks Gord, that's what I thought.
  2. oldbikedude Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
    I plated a few small parts today (A knob, threaded washer, & spring for a toolbox cover) & they look great. I used a 12volt, 6amp battery charger. Time will tell how well they are plated. I am not sure how well they are plated because I think all the cleaning & polishing could make the bare metal look good. Like I said....time will tell. I need to find a better zinc source than the sheet metal I used...it didn't last long & I got a lot of black slimey film coming off of it floating around my solution.
  3. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
    The black slimey stuff sounds like contamination. I got that in my set up yesterday afternoon as I tried to do stuff too fast and didn't have it clean enough. I let it sit overnight to settle and threw the very bottom of the mixture away.

    I tried a cell phone charger for power as I had read about that. It had 4.5 volts DC with 1.6 amps. The product looked OK, but this afternoon I went back to the D-cell batteries and it came out looking a whole lot brighter. Could be the Eastwood solution is set up for lower voltage. I don't know but..............more experimenting. I did go buy all the ingredients for the vinegar, salt and sugar solution. Party on my frens.
  4. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Yes, that would be contamination. Here are a couple of tips that I think will help. I use a battery charger with 6 amp, 12 amp and boost.

    Key is to clean your parts real good. If they are chromed than I remove the chrome with muratic acid bath with water. Then dip in a solution of baking soda/water to neutralize acid. I even dip parts after plating in the baking soda/water solution (Seems to keep the part from dulling after removing the grey haze/polishing).

    The 6 amp/ the 12 amp works good. On larger parts like the axles/kickers/seat brackets etc....... The boost setting seems to work good. Not sure of reasoning but I think it is due to current going through the metal.

    With using Gords mixture. I have let a part sit out for several months and it has not rusted. It has dulled some but still looks good.
  5. Gord Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    darty, What is the ratio of muratic acid to water that you use to remove chrome? Also, the ratio of baking soda to water to neutralize the acid? Also, how long do you let it sit in the muratic acid? Stupid question probably; long enough to see that the chrome is gone?
    Thanks
  6. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Gord

    Yes long enough to see chrome gone.

    I will look up ratio I am using.

    I use about 1/4 of small box to gallon of water for baking soda. I know when it works when the part fizzes when it hits the water. I stir it occasionally before putting part in solution. Sometimes baking soda settles to bottom.
  7. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC

    12V Gord plated very nice :D
    does anyone have the formula for 24K Gold
    obviously I am trying to save a few bucks
  8. oldbikedude Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
    The black slime film came off the zinc plate after it had been used for a while (toward the end of it's usefull plating life). Could be that it's cheep zinc coating on the sheet metal.
  9. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Gord

    Using 1 part muratic acid, 2 parts water. Make sure you dump acid into water and use it outdoors so you don't breath it.

    You'll know when chrome comes off, won't fizz. Then dip in baking soda solution , bead blast, etc....
  10. Gord Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Thanks darty. Happy to see everyone is having good luck and fun with their plating projects.
    We'll work on the 24K gold next!
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  11. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
  12. oldbikedude Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
  13. Gord Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
  14. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
    Cool stuff Gord. I think my contamination came from nuts as there may have been deposits in the threads that wouldn't come clean or can't be seen easily. Everything else seems to be fine. I think I may get a plumbing combination wire brush for cleaning fitting to remove residue in the threads.
  15. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Couple of battery terminal cleaners work great.
  16. Chayzed Pilot Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    So Cal
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2004 TC450,1978 390CR,1983 430 Wr
    Other Motorcycles:
    A gaggle of them
    Hey Gord, I tried the swamp cooler anonde today numerous times and had no problems whatsoever and the parts came out a little shinier. I was skeptical but it seems to work just as good as the sheet zinc I have. For the $9 I am sold.

    Chayzed
  17. oldbikedude Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
    Thanks for the input Chayzed......that's what I'm going to try next.
  18. Gord Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    New England
    Great! Glad the anode worked.
    For what it's worth I just tried to remove the chrome off an Ossa clutch actuator arm to plate it; the first time with 1 part muriatic acid and 2 parts water. 2 days and nothing. Then I went to straight muriatic acid for 24 hours and still nothing. Lots of fizzing and bubbling. It also ate in to the metal areas where the chrome had come off with my blaster. Finally I took it out and sanded the chrome off.
    I'm sure this method works on some chrome plated parts, but not this one.
  19. oldbikedude Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Honey Brook Pa.
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1988 wr 430 with cr suspension
    Other Motorcycles:
    66flh,67 CA77,76 CR125M,73H1,74ty250
    Would reversing the polarity on the plating set up pull the chrome off the part? (& send it to a dummy steel anode)
  20. dartyppyt Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    17 TE 150, 82CR 500
    Other Motorcycles:
    82 125,250,430&500 79 390 83 250
    Interesting Gord,

    I know that I have used the muratic acid thing couple of times now and it removed chrome.

    Only took an hour or a couple, so maybe it had something else on there like hard chrome?