Poll - 449/511 EFI butterfly removal

I have not, and am not saying anywhere that these above know fixes don't work.
Clearly they do. The information is good info, just that it costs money to do.
There are 5 of us in my family, I have a mortgage, two cars etc etc. Money is important to me.

What I tried to & succeeded in doing was to not have to purchase additional stuff to add to a bike that I was at wits end with.
I did not want to spend money on a bike that I really was considering selling or burning!! (I truthfully hated it that much)

The mods I did removed some parts, yes!
I didn't have to add anything to it, & if it didn't work out I could return it to stock.
The mods were FREE & they worked for me with no side affects.

I now really love the bike, it has NO fueling issues & can be enjoyed as much as it should have from new.

Wow this all suxs.. I just come back to ch to read about mods. Seriously we should all be working together as we share the same interests.

All the info here is gold all the input and testing and results any company would pay thousands for, use it guys and show some love.

Fair call!

Mod the bikes how you want, at the end of the day, the choice lies with the bike owner.

I have sent a personal note to Tinken saying I am sorry for loosing my cool, it isn't how I like to operate.

I don't care one way or the other about the thread.
I am enjoying my bike how it is to ride, having made the changes.
But it does seem fairly clear that there is some gain from removing the butterfly, 15 to 0 at this stage.
(The reason I thought other owners might like to try it & see for themselves with my original thread).

As I am new to forums in general, I'll be doing my best not to over-think any comments from here on in.

Cheers, D

I have followed Tinkens advice since getting my 511, he has been spot on, and my flameouts were cured.
I don't mind farkling/spending a little money to make it mine. A properly tuned PCV will make it right,
I was in there playing and removed it (the second butterfly) I like the result. Mr. Tinken is probably the
most knowledgeable guy anywhere on these bikes (others too). I, like so many others owe him loads
for his time and expertise. Thanks Tinken!

I have edited or removed anything not based on fact from my posts & likely to wind people up.

Fact - without the butterfly, the bike rips. It runs fine.

looks like mine is removed already.
Well my bikes rips too.. plain and simple. Fact

my opinion: All info, test and other is gold.. Share our passion and show some love.

About the butterfly: I removed 3 days ago.
The bike is better, not much more then before.With this change, you are not earning hp. It change just a little engine response / accelerator.

Today I'll go on track to Borgo Ticino - Pista Azzurra (Italy, famous race track for supermotard).
I'll let you know.

great... let us know how it goes. it wont have more hp, maybe 1-3 more if at all. But the bike is much snappier (responsive ) on the throttle.

Don't forget to Vote in the Poll.

Update... I had ecu updated to akro map it's a spare ecu I have. (Kept the original as is) did a 70km ride today and the bike ran with no problems at all. Although it did seem to drop the snappy throttle and had not much mid range at all. I did around 50 km like this and hated it... why I still don't know??? Maybe it wasn't mapped properly...I'm not sure. So when we stopped I took the original ecu out of my backpack plugged her in and WHAM!!! BACK TO SNAP POWER ALL THE WAY THROUGH.... so last 15 20 km was amazing the bike came back to life.

I love this machine now and will start getting my motard setup on the go asap.

Ps: glad to see we are all getting along now.

I just SMOKED my buddies Husaberg 650! I think I'm getting like, 75 rear wheel horsepower! It runs more like a 750 than a 500! AND, it as smooth as melted butter. Not a lump anywhere.


...and it's quite!



.... all previous statements are emotional representations of real-life subjective events and/or desires.....

The thing that fixed my 2011 compression stall dash resets, I have detailed in the original post.
Have a quick read, but in short, for this bike, just the fitment of a Lithium battery with the increase in cranking amps that bring has fixed it 100%.
Since the battery, I have not lost dash data in 5 or 6 full rides, clock & odo all sweet.

I have some other less elegant (than piggyback) but cheaper solutions for fueling I'm working on for the budget guys like myself.
I will post them up when I'm sure they work, as with the other things.

I'm with you on the 'BTE-ECU' (between the ears ECU ) there.
My own one needs calibrating at times, I have an old bad habit of 'blipping' the throttle before cracking it open, on an unmodified TE449, this will often bring about a flame-out.
(For me it is an old habit I developed driving a very heavily modified Rally car with big cam & carbs around on the road. I used to blip the throttle to bring the revs up before loading it with the clutch to make sure the engine was awake. I drove that car for 5 or 6 years, sold it years ago & still can't shake the habit).....