Quick TM tidbits...............................

I have some sample packs, pm mailing address.
do all your usual eating and loading but add some RynoPower to your usual deal.

I will do! Thanks. Bike prepped sitting at race area. Rained 2 inches last night and been raining steady for over four hours now. Should be a good one! Toss a coin I think its a crap shoot

And your tm's make me drool!!![/quote]. Aw really the funny thing Is not a ton to drool over. quality parts galore a neutral handling chassis nothing to radical that makes it weird etc.. you do get the cool feeling that it is made by a mom and pop shop that cares!! If I could spec out a 15 which it sounds like you may be able to I'd do marzocchi forks ohlins shock and full brembo stoppers with a nickel plated pipe ! Ciao Bella!!¡!

That rig with those bikes must turn some heads.

. Aw really the funny thing Is not a ton to drool over. quality parts galore a neutral handling chassis nothing to radical that makes it weird etc.. you do get the cool feeling that it is made by a mom and pop shop that cares!! If I could spec out a 15 which it sounds like you may be able to I'd do marzocchi forks ohlins shock and full brembo stoppers with a nickel plated pipe ! Chow Bella!!¡![/quote]



That's Ciao Bella!

I had to laugh at that as well since I am italian haha

Yeah me too!

purina cat CHOW.

Yea late night and tired and to think I spent two years in Italy! My bad and this darn smart phone does not help . Race results fair at best. I would have been faster on my 150 and this is why. Bike itself did a wonderful job and never missed a beat. Again engine wonderful and handing superb. The shortcomings as follows. one is myself. not running twenty miles a week hurt me badly especially with this awesome race chassis! Rear brakes are squeakers! But did not fail (pushed hard) had a solid second nailed in senior a. but lost it all in the last section. One reason I was very tired!!! But the other reason was the !?%#@+&$// clutch pull. Ridiculous my lord a yz 490 that a redneck owns Nd never lubed the stock cable may work better. Gotta figure out asap!!! Or she is going down the road. Gonna test ride a beta soon. If anyone has detailed info on how to make this clutch pull like a KTM or gas gas. please tell me!! Ha ha and still no plastic with??? No real complaints except clutch pull. bike will be priced at 4750 firm and fully serviced if anyone is interested. Possibly if tour not 50 years old the clutch may not bother you. But no excuse for a juice clutch to.work this way. Has Honda cr250 clutch plates installed from day one 27 or 28 hours is all.....oh yea ended up forth no excuse for me and my worst result in years........

Pull your clutch slave cylinder apart, buy new OEM o-rings and inspect for wear. Piston should slide smooth without o-rings. Honda plates are not an ideal replacement, stock is better (have you checked the stack height VS stock, a thicker stack will produce a firmer pull). Can't compare my clutch to a ktm but I never found it hard tot pull or troublesome in any other way. In fact my clutch pull is lighter then a Husky WR250, RM125, yfz450, Raptor 700, TDM850, RMZ250 and what not.

By definition, a motorbike is Italian or it´s not a bike. Don´t know why, but no one else gets it all together like they do: the motor, suspension, geometry, the looks and the steering. I know the workmanship of their production bikes is often slipshod, the electrics are generally horrendous etc., but all that´s of no consequence and can be put right easily. When my Husky´s ready for the tip, I´m putting my money on a new Italian motard (and am sure there´ll be one when the time comes).

I'll have to get a little more detailed info and try it. I have the brand new 12 stock clutch that the original owner was told not to run and he bought the bike from Pete was shipped direct to him from Cali. Need more detailed info on exactly what I have to do to work this out. Last part 12 miles had to use all four fingers to pull in clutch. by Tuesday or early Wednesday my body had recovered but not my clutch hand!!

I have the 12 clutch (one less steel and friction plate, but the steel plates are 1,5mm opposed to 1,2mm if my memory serves me right), no problems with it.
You're bike seriously has an issue.
Most important check your slave cylinder, check clutch-plates (stack height), also make sure the friction-plates are soaked in oil (leave them for a day or so in oil).
Check your clutch springs, maybe they have been replaced with stronger ones (doubtful but you don't know with a secondhand).

If I could I would come over and fix this issue for you, unfortunately that is a few thousand km.
Really don't ditch the bike because of this issue, it's a great bike, you'll regret doing it (although the Beta is also very nice I must say).

Yea the funny thing is I'm used to a husky 125-150 or 250 two stroke. A motion pro clutch cable and lengthen the clutch arm 3/16 ths of and inch on a 250 and it pulls easier then the 125!! While I've done top end jobs I've never had a slave cylinder apart. or had to measure stack height. I'm sure I could do it and may have to. Have not been doing my hand squeezers either like I should. Will test drive a beta soon for the heck of it and see how much more flex the frame allows which is good for woods riding. Not giving up on the bike I really like it. Sad part is I would have to drive 11 hours to halls to let them look at it they are kinda the only guys I trust. Who knows may skip racing this weekend and go ride Street bike! Been super busy so gotta find time.....

I don't know why TM's always have such a stiff clutch, they must have some very robust springs. On the positive side, I 've have never had a TM clutch slip. My tm144 has a stiffer clutch than my Hbg 496 had. I've always tended to stir the gearbox as opposed to reaching for the clutch, so it doesn't hamper me much. TM handling makes up for any shortcomings for me.

Listen I'm a small guy, 1,67m, small hands and I don't have issues with the clutch. The pull isn't particularly light, I would consider it to be average.
However when I bought the bike secondhand the o-ring had been replaced with the wrong size, and the pull was way heavier, it was a quick and cheap fix (proper size).

G'day all, I thought you may like a 2013 TM85 perspective. I just recently purchased this 50 hour old bike for my 11 year old son. It had 10 hours on a Woosner piston (I think that's how you spell it). After 1 tank of fuel the little end bearing cage broke and destroyed the top end, the bottom end survived miraculously. $1000 later it is back up and running very well. I used a VHM piston this time as I found it had 0.3mm or 12thou side wall clearance with the small end needle roller, the Woosner piston had 0.75mm or 30thou, I believe this is why a small section of the cage broke and subsequently went through the motor.

The previous owner who I knew came to the party and assisted in costs. Funnily enough he is upgrading his son to a Husky 85.

I relaced the hubs in to a small wheel version, all springs were replaced by the previous owner to suit a lighter rider which suited my son. Heaps of spares come with it (chain slider is from Honda) I suspect lots of other parts are as well. I also found TM Racing etched on the head stem bearings. Most of the other bearings are easily sourced. Clutch pull is easy and I believe it has the same clutch as the 125.

Overall chalk and cheese compared to his 1998 KX80, this is his first year of racing, he is doing well so I thought he deserved a better opportunity for competitiveness.

As for my TE450, well it has been parked in the shed doing nothing while I mechanic, drive and sponsor the boy, wouldn't have any other way though, love it.