Wow, I never throuht my ass would get so much attention. I did order a sweet cheeks for a cheap solution and will try it out. The Rich Meyer looks great and may try that as a second seat as I will keep the Renazo. My 610 is my go anywhere bike that I want to go on longer trips and I having two seats gives my me lots of options. We all know the 610 can do it all and I am exploring another fork in the road. Thanks for all the help.