1. Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Sweden - About 1988 and older

restoring a Up-Tite 87 250 XC...

Discussion in 'Vintage Restoration Projects' started by everfree, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    nothing wrong with fork boots, they do protect the chrome. nowadays neoprene socks are used instead but dont have the look.who cares if kids dont like em? most kids dont even know about the swede bikes anyway..my coworkers poke fun but those are the ones i havent rode with yet. the ones in the know try to warn them..
    the 87/88 fork may look the same, but are much different internally than those before. the only problem is the wheel must be used along with the disc, caliper, and forks. the disc diameter is the same, but you get the dual piston brembo that is quite similar to modern tech.
  2. troy deck Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Republic MO
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 250wr 12 cr125
    Other Motorcycles:
    kx65 ty80 rm80 kdx250
    SPEAKING OF MODERN TECH I WAS TALKIN TO THE LOCAL SHOCK GURU THAT HAS MY 87 SHOCK ALL IN PIECES HE SAID IT ALL LOOKED GREAT GUESS IT REALLY IS A LO LO TIME UNIT ANYWAY HE SAID THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS THAT 30Y/O SHOCK IS BETTER THAT MOST OF THE NEW ONES HE SAID IF IT WAS HIS WOULD PUT A OIL/DUST SEAL IN IT AND A NEW BUMPSTOP IT ROTTED AWAY COMPLEATLY AND CALL IT GOOD WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK THE OIL LOOKED GOOD AND IT STILL HAD NITROGEN IN IT WOULD YOU DROP $135 ON FRESH INSIDE GUTS AND DOSE ANYBUDDY HAVE A SPRING FROM HELL LIKE WELL UP IN THE 6s AND SOME FORK SPRINGS TO FOR A BIIIIG MAN
  3. Darrel78 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 WR430
    Everfree, here are the pics. Showing spline wear. I'll mail it to you and let you evaluate if you like.

    Attached Files:

  4. Darrel78 Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    87 WR430
    Also your part number seems to refer to the 125. Is 16 11 677-01 a more appropriate number?
  5. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Yes... my bad. You're right, I mis-read the parts manual.
    Thanks.
  6. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300

    justintendo,
    I like the fork boots better.
    I've been told that fork boots, if kept on the forks nonstop and on forks that don't get regularly serviced, they may cause moisture to collect inside and contribute to chrome pitting. I'm going to use them but keep an eye on the chrome tubes.

    From '86 to '88, Husky made changes every year to the right side up fork / brake combo. I think the following is correct, but maybe someone knows better...

    '86 - single piston Brembo, fixed caliper, floating disc rotor, unpainted magnesium forks legs, new single fork seal
    '87 - two piston Brembo, floating caliper, fixed disc rotor; fork improvements (new fork dampers w/ hydraulic compression value, an anti-bottoming device, top out spring
    '88 - no changes to disc brake, more fork improvements (new fork dampers w/ better valving flow w/ more valve holes and larger top off spring and washer)

    In my experience the '88 fork is the best (and last) right side up fork Husky made and a nice improvement from the 87 fork which is still a good fork.
    All the Husky right side up forks are easy to service vs. the upside down WP forks.

    The two piston brake is nice too, but probably about 75% the stopping power of a modern Husky front brake.

    If you can get '88 forks, they would be the best upgrade. I'm looking for a pair to replace my 86 Auto forks.
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  7. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    Darrel78,
    Thanks for the pics. The kickstarter looks good.
    I've measured my kickstarter and it is bent a small amount, which is not unusual. Probably could be used, but a straight one is preferred.
    PM me.
    Here's a pic of my 250 kickstarter on the left and a 510 kickstarter. You might be able to tell mine is bend on the spline end.
    IMG_1697-2.JPG
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  8. Bodger Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr400 enduro 1986
    Other Motorcycles:
    triumphs, bsas, yam tt500
    and I started at the beginning of this thread and you have written the bible on the 87 and 88 forks and brakes way back there..haha, I KNEW I read about them somewhere

    don't mind me...:rolleyes:
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  9. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC


    one note is the 86 is a carry over (pretty much) of the 85, obvious difference is most of the 86 lower legs I have seen are not painted

    my brother took the guts out of the '85 CR forks and adapted them to a pair of '87 forks, they are shooter and more progressive than any early fork I have ridden

    the biggest difference of the '86 to'87 was the double seal change and the removable bushing that gave the fork greater stability
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  10. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300

    I have not seen an Ohlins spring stiffer than 4.9 N/m. I'm sure some above 5 are out there. If you need 6, than you may need to special order one or find one in another brand of shock, like a WP spring... I've heard some WP and Sachs springs will fit. Hall's can make a shock spring to fit your Ohlins.
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  11. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300

    Ha ha, Bodger. Sorry about the lengthy fork talk. I've been discussing them with some local Husky experts, so it's been on my mind.
    And my mission to upgrade my bikes to their best has me focused on this. Maybe this Husky stuff is making me lose it!
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  12. Bodger Husqvarna
    A Class

    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr400 enduro 1986
    Other Motorcycles:
    triumphs, bsas, yam tt500
    no, no complaints from me!

    good job, it's great and becoming a resource for noobs like me.
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  13. rwgregory Husqvarna
    AA Class

    Location:
    Chula Vista, CA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    1985 500XC, 1987 510TX, 1990 510WMX
    Other Motorcycles:
    1979 Honda CR250,'88 CR500,'92 XR600
    Ohlins definately made stiffer springs. The stock spring for my 1985 500 XC is a 5.7,(Ohlins paint code blk/red/blk). The paint codes for the 6's are blu/-/blu. 6.1= blu/purp/blu, 6.5=blu/blu/blu, 6.9=blu/wht/blu. The springs are out there, the "fun" part is finding them...
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  14. suprize Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bendigo, Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    WR 400, bike in a box Moto Villa 350
    Other Motorcycles:
    ktm 300
    andy at hva has the poop on the best forks. in regard to the chrome pitting, ive sanded the crap out of them with 1500 to remove the sharp seal cutting edges and gotten some descent life out of seals as opposed to hunting down fork legs. (this is a fix to go riding now and not later...)
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  15. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
    yes 1500 is a good choice it removes edges but does not reshape
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  16. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    It's been a few days... but I have been working on the 250.

    Can't believe how much time parts cleaning takes. Geez. Good thing I don't do this for a living, I'd go broke. Since I have it all apart, I'm trying to get everything looking nice. Amazing where you find rust and how many bits are rusted on this bike. It must have been stored out in the woods.
    I don't exactly have a shop, so work takes longer and I have to improvise. I make do without some things... like a vise. I got to get one.
    Anyway, got the fork clamps cleaned and painted, new taper bearings in the steering stem, cleaned, de-rusted, rebuilt both forks. Next up the swing arm and front wheel.

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  17. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    the used kicker spring from the 87 250. As you can see, it's tilted... leaning to one side.
    Usable? What do you think?
    IMG_1711.JPG IMG_1713.JPG
  18. justintendo klotz super techniplate junkie

    Location:
    mercer, pa/northwest pa
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    84 250,86 400,87 430,88 250,95 360
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 kawasaki zrx 1100
    doesnt look that bad to me..if it works ok installed id say i would trust it.
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  19. 2premo Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern NV
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    98 WR360, 1987 WR430, 1988 XC430
    Other Motorcycles:
    Sherco 300, 2002 KTM 380EXC
  20. everfree Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Bend, Oregon
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    86 430AE (2), 88 430AE, 87 430WR (2)
    Other Motorcycles:
    87 250 XC, 87 430 CR, '17 GG 300
    I messed up...
    ...was working on getting new parts back on the polished swing arm. Pressing new bearings into a thirty-year-old NOS chain roller cracked the roller. I should have warmed up the roller first, maybe that would have prevented this:
    IMG_1726.JPG
    These original rollers are hard to find. Argh! At least I didn't crack the bottom one. XC bikes have 2 rollers. WR bikes have 1 lower.

    Next, considering whether to clean up this linkage knuckle. Originally they used a fiber washer, now wasted, as an outer spacer... I think. Don't think new fiber washers are available.
    Bearings look good, was thinking of just cleaning and greasing it up good. I can get some of the bearings - but not all.
    Anyone have any ideas on how to service this?

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