I'd go for it if it was me - you are hardly talking RGV here. What is the likelihood of cops or insurance assessors knowing what to look for on each and every make and model of LAMS compliant bike - particularly on more obscure models like these, or more to the point what is the likelihood that they would have the time and inclination to go to the lengths of checking this. No, they will look at the paperwork and tick the box because that is the limit of their training. I'd change the bracket and keep it listed on the rego as LAMS compliant.
Do not underestimate the ability of insurance companies to get out of paying out of claims especially on a multi vehicle accident. Ditto for the cops if there is serious injury or a fatality. I have a 35kW bike and am more than happy with its power.
Mine was delivered and registered as LAMS, and then a few weeks later the 43kw part arrived. Noone has told VicRoads, so I suppose it will always remain registered as LAMS. Best of both worlds I say. I guess I will know for sure in a few weeks time when the rego renewal comes. 2 months till my Terra's first birthday. For any foreigners reading this thread, most Australian states have LAMS - Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme - for novice riders - while learning to ride, and for the first year or so after passing the motorcycle licence test. LAMS bike in most states must be 660cc or less, and have a power:weight ration of 150kw:1000kg or less.
My bike was registered as non LAMS, even though it was in 35kW trim, so even with the 35kW throttle plate, I would not have been able to sell it to a learner.
Mate, 35 to 43kw is massive! I revved out 1st accidentally as I popped my first tr wheelie exiting the dealership. I can get it up in 1st and 2nd without the clutch. I've been riding for 20 years so almost know what I'm doing
So I've just sent the paperwork off with Moto GC (the dealer) to end the restriction on my Terra, should be all done Weds Thurs next week I'll let you know how it goes. Its sort of like an early Christmas Pressie and like getting a new bike too ! An interesting side note, they had four Terras and a couple of Stradas on the floor and they are all sold. I think word has got out about this bike
After you get it out on the street and open the throttle, you'll just want to wheelie it all the way home, the long way.
I think that is the reason people say they get the head shake at faster speeds, 'cause it is trying to launch the front wheel!
So just got the de-restrition done today. Its a throttle body plate that not only limits the amount of travel of the throttle cable but also the rate of travel. So it limits the maximum throttle amount as well as how quickly it gets there. Its like a completely different bike ! Very torquey and revs out much better than before After taking the long, long way home and getting drenched in the rain today it will be interesting to see how I go in the tighter tracks in the bush. I will also need to look more seriously at tyres now. All I can say is Wow ! Whiteo you will love it mate, its well worth the wait.
Do you know if your dealer had to recalibrate the ECU in addition to the throttle plate changeout? Just wondering if you have the same issue as Beer Hunter with the engine warning light coming on with the rev limiter after derestriction? Better wait for the weather to fine up though! http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/terra-rev-limiter.37121/
I was reading about this, I asked them if they had to re flash the ECU and they said no - its just swapping the throttle body plate over and then good to go. It took about 30 mins and cost $46.00. I have never bounced it off the rev limiter, maybe Im soft haha ! I'll check today and let you know. Apart from the throttle action feeling stiffer all else is good so far.
How far did they have to disassemble the bike to get to the throttle plate? I thought it was pretty deep in there.
Im not sure Chris, to be honest I didn't look. I was spending my time looking at goodies in the shop while it was done. I won't get to test the rev limiter today Aus_TR650 as I have my little companion with me (she's three). I'll try tomorrow.
just a quick question for a possibly dead thread - Im just wondering what your bikes revved at before and after the lams change. For instance mine sits on 4K at 100kmph, in 5th gear. does this sound like the de-restricted or restricted model?
Derestricting does not change the gearing of the bike so both engines will be the same rev/min for any given road speed.
It's a little bit more than just swapping the cable bracket. There is no map update needed, but once the hardware is changed, the TPS must be reset, followed by setting the wide open throttle position. If WOT is not set, the ECU will default to 75% so that even though the butterfly can move to fully open, the ECU will not recognise it as such. The result will be too much air and not enough fuel at WOT. There is a quirk of the BMW ECU though, and this apparently is also present on the F800. Even when WOT is set correctly, the ECU will read that back as 85%. (go figure )
