1. 4 Stroke Husqvarna Motorcycles Made In Italy - About 1989 to 2014
    TE = 4st Enduro & TC = 4st Cross

silicon hoses ...CV4 vs China ?

Discussion in '4 Stroke' started by extremeacres, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    I will never use waterless coolant, the reason is it's thicker than the coolant I use and we did a few tests with the stock impeller it was causing cavitation so instead of being pumped around the system it was a thermal syphon.
    That is what caused a friend bike to over heat.
    Could well be the issue in the orange hose case.
    Also it could be a faulty batch after all nothing good has come out orange!
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  2. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    Info, The new red ZipTy XF2 is almost as liquid as water or at the least like a standard 50/50 coolant mix (Chad Reed's 22 Motorsport was using the ZipTy XF2 product). and the new Evans power sports coolant is also a lot less viscous than the old original version, visibly so, I used the original and it was syrupy looking. Its worth taking a second look, as the tech progresses. As stated above fast easy flow is the key to keeping heat under control.
    http://www.ziptyracing.com/xf2-waterless-coolant/

    sorry coolant hijack, back to hoses....
    go with professional level quality brands is the answer (CV4, Samco, etc). You can easily see what the pro teams are using, use those product lines, race teams don't risk low quality stuff. If the Pro quality brand is rupturing further system investigation is probably a good idea.

    PS FYI only- my TE300 system uses OEM 1.8 rad cap, OEM rads, OEM louvers, EE rad guards(open frame type, lightening hole drilled), ZipTy XF2 coolant, CV4 Blue hoses and a billet machined Checkpoint-offroad impeller (nice piece)
    http://checkpointoff-road.com/store.html
    see P/N 5243

    my TXC450, TE310 and TXC310R all used CV4 hoses and waterless coolants first Evans/ ZipTy XF1 and then XF2, all were bullet proof in the cooling system dept.
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  3. Herb Husqvarna
    A Class

    Location:
    Irvine CA USA
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2006 TE250
    Other Motorcycles:
    Honda CB400 four, CRF250L, XL250R
  4. reveille Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Northern Illinois
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2014 FE501
    Other Motorcycles:
    2015 300 XC W
    Just wanted to bring something up regarding the profactory hoses. They are made in the US not china and are priced between the cv4 and chinese ones
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  5. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    all those comments are from amateurs.......very annoying to hear the "not worth the price bullshit thought process......we deal with unqualified/sneaked into the inventory counterfeit parts all the time now, most are from Chinese counterfeiters. DO you want substandard parts on your racing machine??????
    Parts that may not only cause DNF but may cause injury.

    Or how about this which is my world case-that my engineering office deals with--do you want to fly in an aircraft that has been filled with unqualified un traceable components, that when tested to the proper spec-- fail miserably???????
    Put whatever the F you want on your machine to save some money, I will stick with the professional grade stuff.
    Spend 10K on top tier full bred race bike----and skimp on crappy single weave, unqualified material hoses ?? really??? F that. That time I did not mince words.....stupid amatuers-----PS besides the quality---think about the company- CV4, Samco and the others these guys are made at "home" by domestic workers and their companies support the sport and the sports aftermarket.
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  6. Johnrg Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Santa Barbara
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2013 TE 310 R
    Other Motorcycles:
    Ducati Sport Classic/Ducati SFV2
    I agree Robert and I like things sorted before doing anything. That said... One should know if any product is good and not trust blindly. Granted hoses and comments you reacted to I agree with you, but... Products can be defective and It behooves all privateers to do their own diligence even from supposed "big names". It comes down to the person making that product and how good a day they are having or a possible blem in materials, etc... I trust nobody on a personal race bike and I trust no manufacturer to have things 100% today.
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  7. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    Man that's bs yes I'm an amateur, I have had pro brand stuff fail on me I've had cheaper stuff fail on me to.

    Taring every non brand with the same brush is harsh.
    Buy cheap or expensive no bother too me it's your coin, but before you say the hoses or anything for that matter are rubbish on my bike you have to question if they're rubbish why are they still performing to my mediocre level an still on my bike???????????
  8. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    no comment refuse to turn this into he said this and that--use what you choose and enjoy the ride. PS the Gates style type OEM black hoses are quite possibly better quality than all these other ones, OE has lots to lose if their hoses start failing......we just always want to look cool.
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  9. shawbagga Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    Eaton, Western Australia
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    None
    Other Motorcycles:
    2018 Gasgas XC250
    I'm runnin the chinga red silicone hoses for past 30(maybe more can't remember) odd hours n no probs at all. Had 2 sets of oem hoses n both leaked at impeller outlet barb n bottom rad barb no matter wat I did-sanded barb/rotated clamps/different clamps/silicone.

    In sayin that if I dropped $10-$13K on a new bike I'd probably buy brand name but the wr300 is jus an old shitter more or less now. I say that affectionately tho! ;)
  10. robertaccio Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    2021 Husqvarna TE300i
    Other Motorcycles:
    99 HusqvarnaTE610, 94 Husaberg FC501
    after watching the brilliant show behind enemy lines featuring Brit commandos from WW2- I learned not argue with a Brit hahahaaa--- highly recommend watching. From Norway to St. Nazierre to the deserts of Libya, glory days of unconventional. ungentlemanly warfare. OK you hosers lets get back to riding !
  11. juicypips Husqvarna
    Pro Class

    Location:
    gloucestershire
    Husqvarna Motorcycle:
    wr 360. 2002
    Other Motorcycles:
    Gas Gas TxT 300, Yamaha wr250f
    We will drag you down to our level then beat you with experience.
    But in all seriousness quality varies in everything available.
    Hose rupturing without the rad cap blowing off steam?? That's 1.1bar about 15psi ? Something's wrong in that system.
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